I Feel Badly For......

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

So you've gone from being a race caller to a "drifter" like Pat too. According to your logic...

I don't know -- but the horse racing analyst lady they had interviewing Pat in Singapore was hotter than any I've seen in our country.





Beulah Park started this trend ... and everyone else just wants to run with it. It's the stuff 180-point morning lines are made of.

Look at those freckles. European I take it. I can tell from all of the extensive research I've done on europorn.

Good job keeping your eyes above her chin, Pat.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M1eX...eature=related

[Riot]

What I'm saying is that if O'Neill and Reddam got together and concluded that the horse could have run in the Belmont but that long term, it wasn't in his best interests, I wish they would have run him because I don't think they had a long term racing interest to protect.

But they had a horse to protect. A horse that has to live another two decades with what racing does to his legs. They chose Horse. Not Money, not Legend.

Kudos to them

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Riot

But they had a horse to protect. A horse that has to live another two decades with what racing does to his legs. They chose Horse. Not Money, not Legend.

Kudos to them

I understand that and I'm not saying they did the wrong thing. I guess I'm looking at it from a different perspective. I don't know if you watch other sports or not but situations often come up where a guy is injured and if it was a meaningless game, he'd probably sit out and rest or get surgery but when big stakes are on the line (playoff spots, championships, etc.), they play through the injury. I remember a Celtics team in the mid-80s. Kevin McHale and Robert Parish were playing with busted up feet and both required surgery after the season. They both played through the injuries because they knew that they were facing opportunities that might not come again. That's kind of how I'm looking at this situation with IHA. If you tell me that racing him again is definitely going to hurt him long term, maybe even be catastrophic, of course I'd say don't do it. If you tell me that he could run again and come out of the race ok but maybe not run again, I wonder if that's not a chance worth taking? I admit that I'm not the horse lover that a lot of you are on here so I'm going to be more willing to take chances while most of you will err on the side of caution.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

If you tell me that he could run again and come out of the race ok but maybe not run again, I wonder if that's not a chance worth taking? I admit that I'm not the horse lover that a lot of you are on here so I'm going to be more willing to take chances while most of you will err on the side of caution.

I understand what you are saying, and I think the above is pretty accurate. Yes, some would make the other decision. Somebody mentioned Majestic Prince, how a very similar situation existed with him.

[booner]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I understand that and I'm not saying they did the wrong thing. I guess I'm looking at it from a different perspective. I don't know if you watch other sports or not but situations often come up where a guy is injured and if it was a meaningless game, he'd probably sit out and rest or get surgery but when big stakes are on the line (playoff spots, championships, etc.), they play through the injury. I remember a Celtics team in the mid-80s. Kevin McHale and Robert Parish were playing with busted up feet and both required surgery after the season. They both played through the injuries because they knew that they were facing opportunities that might not come again. That's kind of how I'm looking at this situation with IHA. If you tell me that racing him again is definitely going to hurt him long term, maybe even be catastrophic, of course I'd say don't do it. If you tell me that he could run again and come out of the race ok but maybe not run again, I wonder if that's not a chance worth taking? I admit that I'm not the horse lover that a lot of you are on here so I'm going to be more willing to take chances while most of you will err on the side of caution.

You are correct. I have seen it many times before. But does a horse that was put in this situation know when to take it easy for a play or two? Or when to call timeout to get a quick break? Or have someone sub for them or while the defense is on the field get medical attention to help ease the pain?

[blackthroatedwind]

I've seen it all now. Robert Parrish and Kevin McHale played with injuries....so I'll Have Another should have run.

Have keyboard....will post.

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M1eX...eature=related

Wasn't there a song called Brown Eyed Handsome Man?

Can only think this youtube could have been an inspiration.

[Indian Charlie]

Ronnie Lott had his injured finger amputated so that he could play in the Super Bowl, KG.

Doesn't mean it was the smart or right thing to do, for him or a horse.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Ronnie Lott had his injured finger amputated so that he could play in the Super Bowl, KG.

Doesn't mean it was the smart or right thing to do, for him or a horse.

Doesn't make it wrong either. Terrell Owens rushed back from surgery to play in the Super Bowl one year. Chances to make history don't come along every day. You take a moment for granted, as if you'll get another chance and it may never come again. Again, I'm not saying that you go out there knowing that if you do, you are going to die. I'm saying that when you weigh the options, if you have a once in a lifetime opportunity and taking it might mean you have to sacrifice something else later, sometimes it's worth it. Obviously the horses can't talk but I'd like to imagine that if he could, I'll Have Another would have asked to go.

I don't think there is a right or wrong answer. Just a personal choice. I'm not going to fault them for the one they made.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Ronnie Lott had his injured finger amputated so that he could play in the Super Bowl, KG.

Doesn't mean it was the smart or right thing to do, for him or a horse.

and ronnie made the decision himself...no one can ask the horse. they made the right call.
the spotlight only shines on this sport so many days a year. god, i can imagine the press had they run him and something went wrong. good lord, it would have been eight belles times a million.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Danzig

and ronnie made the decision himself...no one can ask the horse. they made the right call.
the spotlight only shines on this sport so many days a year. god, i can imagine the press had they run him and something went wrong. good lord, it would have been eight belles times a million.

KG just likes being the contrarian. If they'd have announced the injury and said they were going to race him in the Belmont and immediately retire him, KG would have said either they should retire him before the Belmont, or he would have said to keep racing him through the BCC.

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

I don't know -- but the horse racing analyst lady they had interviewing Pat in Singapore was hotter than any I've seen in our country.





Beulah Park started this trend ... and everyone else just wants to run with it. It's the stuff 180-point morning lines are made of.

Can we get back to the real issue. I think Pat should ask this lady out.

[PatCummings]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Can we get back to the real issue. I think Pat should ask this lady out.

Ha - I know Laura well, and she does a great job for the Dubai Racing Channel.

I bet. She reminds me of a prettier version of Faye Reagan. She's got just the right amount and shade of freckles.

I give her 4.5 socks.

/creeper

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I bet. She reminds me of a prettier version of Faye Reagan. She's got just the right amount and shade of freckles.

I give her 4.5 socks.

/creeper

Good call.

[Indian Charlie]

She has a pretty bored look on her face.

[King Glorious]

You guys are making the automatic assumption that something would have gone wrong and I'm not going to just accept that as truth. As far as we know, he could have run and come out of the race OK. Or he could have run and worsened the injury and never run again. Or he could have run and suffered a catastrophic injury and the entire sport would have suffered. His people said he could have run.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

She has a pretty bored look on her face.

That is consternation, Trakus is very complicated.