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![]() Who are these some that would have run a lame horse?
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![]() The horse isn't lame. The horse was galloped this am on the injury. He has a mild tendonitis.
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![]() Lame, injured or what ever it you want to call it you are not being honest. What other trainer would have run I'll Have Another? You claimed a lot of of trainers would have entered the horse. Which trainers?
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As O'Neil himself said this afternoon: "Could he run and compete? Yes," said O’Neill. "But would it be in his best interest? No." BTW - you need to go back to your usual Derby Trail handle.
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"Have the clean racing people run any ads explaining that giving a horse a Starbucks and a chocolate poppyseed muffin for breakfast would likely result in a ten year suspension for the trainer?" - Dr. Andrew Roberts |
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please, don't feed the vet troll.
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![]() Thanks alot. I'm not the one being the troll. Or the bi.a.tch.
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"Have the clean racing people run any ads explaining that giving a horse a Starbucks and a chocolate poppyseed muffin for breakfast would likely result in a ten year suspension for the trainer?" - Dr. Andrew Roberts |
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![]() Well, it caused a couple of people I know on FB to post about how barbaric racing is and how it's so cruel and they can't watch it anymore but they know all about it because they read the NY Times articles on it.
I swore a lot and then asked them what was so barbaric about choosing to retire a very slightly injured horse, especially when it is costing the racing industry and the owner a lot of money, which seems to be to be the very definition of placing the horse's welfare above money. And then I thought about reminding them that the NY Times also breathlessly reported that Saddam Hussein definitely had weapons of mass destruction, but then I gave up and got a drink instead. ![]()
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Have another drink and just enjoy the horses racing ![]()
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"Have the clean racing people run any ads explaining that giving a horse a Starbucks and a chocolate poppyseed muffin for breakfast would likely result in a ten year suspension for the trainer?" - Dr. Andrew Roberts |
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--Dunbar
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Curlin and Hard Spun finish 1,2 in the 2007 BC Classic, demonstrating how competing in all three Triple Crown races ruins a horse for the rest of the year...see avatar photo from REUTERS/Lucas Jackson |
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![]() Buy this and look in here, the answer is there!
http://www.amazon.com/War-Peace-Vint.../dp/1400079985 |
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![]() I think Paul and Zillah will be out front on this. This can be a win-win situation depending on what media facility carries it.
Aloha/Geoff |
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![]() I think that it needs to be remembered that most of the things we think of on this forum are coming from the perspective of the racing fan and not just the casual fan. We are gamblers, trainers, hotwalkers, analysts, journalists, etc., on here that have much more than a passing interest. The majority of the people that tune in/attend the Derby and that would have been at Belmont could probably be safely called "momentary" fans. To them, things are much different. While some will read the comments that they are doing what's best for the horse by not running him and hearing how they are saddened by him not being able to run but happy that he's being retired sound and healthy, others will read it different. For example, I had a friend text me this morning and say "good thing Derrick Rose is not a horse. They would have retired him already. If Michael Jordan or Tom Brady were horses, they would have been retired after their season ending injuries." I could be wrong but I think that when the general public reads statements like:
-he's sound and healthy -he could race tomorrow but why risk it? -it's mild tendinitis -he could return in 3-6 months -it's comparable to an ankle sprain in a human I don't think these things necessarily help our cause. Especially on the backs of all of the coverage of O'Neill and his drug suspensions. You have to admit that with his history and then with them putting in the detention barn for extra scrutiny and then he pulls out of the race, it can look at least a little suspicious if you are an outsider and don't know how things really work. I personally don't see how any good comes from this.
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