Big Browns crop

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

Thoughts on Rachel Alexandra vs. her crop (male/female) at 4?

Rachel Alexandra at age 3:

http://www1.drf.com/eclipse/2009/fin...eoftheYear.pdf


Blame at age 4:

http://www1.drf.com/eclipse/2010/pps/blame.pdf


Quality Road at age 4:

http://www1.drf.com/eclipse/2010/pps/quality-road.pdf

[blackthroatedwind]

Drugs, no argument, but as a 2YO wasn't War Pass pretty good?

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Drugs, no argument, but as a 2YO wasn't War Pass pretty good?

Yes -- without a doubt. His race on the wet track in the Breeders Cup was one of the best performances by a 2yo in a long time.

I was going more towards 3yo triple crown series form VS 4yo form by crop.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Yes -- without a doubt. His race on the wet track in the Breeders Cup was one of the best performances by a 2yo in a long time.

I was going more towards 3yo triple crown form VS 4yo form.

Thanks. I kind of figured that.

It was an awful group. Is it possible any horse has ever gone for the Triple Crown off a worse Preakness than Big Brown? Has it ever even been close?

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It was an awful group. Is it possible any horse has ever gone for the Triple Crown off a worse Preakness than Big Brown? Has it ever even been close?

I would have to go through some notebooks and look.

Canonero II would be one strong candidate.

[Calzone Lord]

Canonero II ran only 5 Beyer points faster in the Derby than the Twin Spires purse went one race earlier.

I didn't do a number for his Preakness though.

This is the 2nd place finisher to Seattle Slew in the Preakness:




This fine horse was also 7-to-1 against Slew in the Belmont Stakes.

[blackthroatedwind]

Slew beat some real mediocrities. No doubt. That's why a lot of fig guys were against him until the Fall of 1978.

He and Dr. Patches both ran at Saratoga before the Patterson, and their figs were extremely similar....which is why I bet Dr. Patches.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Thanks. I kind of figured that.

It was an awful group. Is it possible any horse has ever gone for the Triple Crown off a worse Preakness than Big Brown? Has it ever even been close?

I thought I was the only person thinking that. Hell, I thought he looked like he was about to break down in the Preakness stretch run.

[FATPIANO]

The Bid at 3, beat olders 2 out of 3, The Marlboro and The Meadowlands Cup(NTR), he came in second to Affirmed in The JCGC............

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by FATPIANO

The Bid at 3, beat olders 2 out of 3, The Marlboro and The Meadowlands Cup(NTR), he came in second to Affirmed in The JCGC............

He beat General Assembly and Coastal, both super talented horses, but also both 3YOs, in the Marlboro Cup. Just because it was open to older horses doesn't mean his real competition were older horses.