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Old 11-06-2006, 10:55 PM
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Default Trainers Furious at Hollywood Park

All the trainers were so happy with the new surface at Hollywood Park. That was until this weekend. I guess the track superintendant thought there was an anti-speed bias the first couple of days, so he decided to start watering the track like crazy. The result was that the tracks became lightening fast and Maiden $32k claimers ran 6 furlongs in 1:08 3/5 on Saturday.

From what I have heard, you have never seen so many trainers this angry. They were in the racing office screaming on Sunday morning. You've never seen this many people complain. They said that the track was being ruined with all the water. It was making the track rock-hard and unsafe. Frankel had a horse break down in the morning.

Anyway, the track superintendant has gotten the message and they are going to stop watering the track so much. They actually stopped on Sunday and the track seemed to be fine for the races on Sunday.
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Old 11-06-2006, 11:04 PM
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I see there is actually an article about this at drf.com.
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Old 11-07-2006, 01:04 AM
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Friggin fire the jerk.
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Old 11-07-2006, 01:08 AM
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hahahahaha.

have fun with that crap socal.
its the end of Cali racing.


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Old 11-07-2006, 01:10 AM
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It is the beginning of a glorious new day. They just need to fire that groundskeeper.

Dirt is done.

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Old 11-07-2006, 01:17 AM
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It is the beginning of a glorious new day. They just need to fire that sadistic groundskeeper.

Dirt is done.

glorious new day?

are you kidding me?
have you been watching Hollypark since the start of the meet?
its over.
and Del Mar is soon to follow.
never thought I would say this, but Santa Anita is my favorite SoCal track.
they are the only track to show any resistence to this CHRB mandate.



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Old 11-07-2006, 01:18 AM
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Friggin fire the jerk.
Even though the new track has been open for about 7 weeks now, they just started racing on it this past Wednesday. So they really didn't know what the ideal amount of water was to have the best track for racing. They obviously have several different goals. They want a fair track where you can win from anywhere. They want a safe track for the horses. They want a track that doesn't have too much kickback. So there are a number of things that they are trying to do. The first week was pretty much trial and error. The first couple of days were very good. The track was safe, there wasn't too much kickback and the come-from-behinders seemed like they had a little advantage. I guess they figured that if they put more water on it that they could cut down the kickback even more and it may may the track a little fairer in that it would give the speed horses just as good a chance as the come-from-behinders. Anyway, adding alot of extra water ended up being a mistake because it made the track too hard, it favored the speed horses too much, and it made the track less safe. Hopefully they have it figured out now.
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Old 11-07-2006, 01:22 AM
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Ok, sounds reasonable Rupert.
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Old 11-07-2006, 06:12 AM
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I heard Jack Carava on Sunday telling Tony Saavedra that it was the riders who wanted the extra water on the track. I dont know if its true or not but it sounds very possible.
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Old 11-27-2006, 01:26 PM
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I see there is actually an article about this at drf.com.
Where is the story? You are saying something that even if it is true needs a link.

Do you think you can just say something, then in the next post, which is yours, justify it by saying there is a DRF story.

I am sure the DRF loves this.
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Old 11-27-2006, 01:44 PM
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Where is the story? You are saying something that even if it is true needs a link.

Do you think you can just say something, then in the next post, which is yours, justify it by saying there is a DRF story.

I am sure the DRF loves this.
I'm sure they dont mind it as much as you do.
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Old 11-27-2006, 01:46 PM
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I'm sure they dont mind it as much as you do.
I am going to guess you have no horses at Hollywood Park. Probably a pretty easy guess on my part. Let me guess, no horses anywhere.
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Old 11-27-2006, 02:05 PM
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I am going to guess you have no horses at Hollywood Park. Probably a pretty easy guess on my part. Let me guess, no horses anywhere.

Man, you are swinging freely, and missing just as often.
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Old 11-27-2006, 02:11 PM
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I am going to guess you have no horses at Hollywood Park. Probably a pretty easy guess on my part. Let me guess, no horses anywhere.
Im sure that I have as many horses at Hollywood Park as the DRF does
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Old 11-27-2006, 03:51 PM
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I am going to guess you have no horses at Hollywood Park. Probably a pretty easy guess on my part. Let me guess, no horses anywhere.
That was no doubt the best quote of the day!

It may have been a very easy guess on your part, but you were very wrong!
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Old 11-27-2006, 04:32 PM
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I am going to guess you have no horses at Hollywood Park. Probably a pretty easy guess on my part. Let me guess, no horses anywhere.
I'm going to guess that Cannon Shell has more horses than you do.
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