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Old 05-26-2012, 09:08 AM
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so, what, was cali supposed to not bother with the case since o'neill won the derby? surely you don't think things should be ignored because of the timing? he's a repeat offender, if it gives racing a bad name, perhaps they should re-consider the laxity of rules that allow repeat offenders to keep on doing what they do. does it suck for racing, absolutely. but whose fault is it?
He's 1000% correct. They couldn't wait another 2 weeks before dishing out the punishment? It was a charge on something that happened 2 years ago for crying out loud. No one is saying make it go away, but it surely didn't have to be addressed before the Belmont.
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Old 05-26-2012, 11:42 AM
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It seems to me that the arbitrary ban in NY on nasal strips should be lifted now. I am going to write my state senator and ask that the ban be lifted before the Belmont Stakes.

Here's the website for the NYSRB...contact info is on the right
http://www.racing.state.ny.us/
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Old 05-26-2012, 04:11 PM
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It seems to me that the arbitrary ban in NY on nasal strips should be lifted now. I am going to write my state senator and ask that the ban be lifted before the Belmont Stakes.

Here's the website for the NYSRB...contact info is on the right
http://www.racing.state.ny.us/
Let us know how the letter goes.
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Old 05-26-2012, 10:29 PM
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Let us know how the letter goes.
I can tell you right now. Nasal strips will be permitted just in time for IHA to win the triple crown. I feel it.
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Old 05-26-2012, 10:44 PM
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I can tell you right now. Nasal strips will be permitted just in time for IHA to win the triple crown. I feel it.
What's the early Vegas line on the nasal strips for the Belmont Stakes? Every state in the Union allows nasal strips for thoroughbreds except NY. NY allows nasal strips for standardbreds.
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Old 05-26-2012, 10:54 PM
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What's the early Vegas line on the nasal strips for the Belmont Stakes? Every state in the Union allows nasal strips for thoroughbreds except NY. NY allows nasal strips for standardbreds.
It's a lock, because of the standardbred argument you use.

Surely the politician your letter targets will understand this point and act immediately.
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Old 05-26-2012, 11:13 PM
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If the pol had half the sense that you do sir, there would be free nasal strips for all on the Belmont S. card.
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Old 05-26-2012, 04:17 PM
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It seems to me that the arbitrary ban in NY on nasal strips should be lifted now. I am going to write my state senator and ask that the ban be lifted before the Belmont Stakes.

Here's the website for the NYSRB...contact info is on the right
http://www.racing.state.ny.us/
You might want to stick a few grand in the envelope, otherwise your letter is certain to be placed in the circular file.
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This is the first time I've ever heard anyone complain about the nasal strip ban. If it was that important to lift the ban, wouldn't this issue have come up sooner before I'll Have Another's Triple Crown run?
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Old 05-28-2012, 04:16 AM
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Actually, this is the first time ive found out there was a ban.
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This is the first time I've ever heard anyone complain about the nasal strip ban. If it was that important to lift the ban, wouldn't this issue have come up sooner before I'll Have Another's Triple Crown run?
I can't quantify the importance of the ban but very few topics concerning horse equipment see much time in the public spotlight. I'm sure few people know that cornell collars which are used for horses with faulty airways are allowed in some states and not allowed in others. Every time I race a horse anywhere the paddock judge checks to see if the horse is wearing a tongue ite, nasal strip, shadowroll, figure 8 or blinkers. But they have never asked me what type of bit they were wearing or about ear plugs and there is no consistency really required. If I chose to use a tongue tie every other time with a particular horse no one would know. I have taken tongue ties off horses in the paddock because they were seemingly bothered by them.

It would seem that Dr Hill's argument is a strange one considering that a tongue tie or ear plugs which could have an effect on the performance of a horse arent noted anywhere and both of those can come off or out prior to a race as well.
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Old 05-26-2012, 12:26 PM
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He's 1000% correct. They couldn't wait another 2 weeks before dishing out the punishment? It was a charge on something that happened 2 years ago for crying out loud. No one is saying make it go away, but it surely didn't have to be addressed before the Belmont.
It was my understanding that this hearing was already scheduled pre-derby- if thats the case, they shouldnt have changed it just because he won.
Im more concerned that this has dragged on as long as it has.
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Old 05-26-2012, 01:14 PM
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NY is the only state to ban nasal strips but they allow it for standardbreds. This needs to be cleaned up before the Belmont Stakes.
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NY is the only state to ban nasal strips but they allow it for standardbreds. This needs to be cleaned up before the Belmont Stakes.



I dont see that happening before the belmont.
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Old 05-26-2012, 05:12 PM
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I dont see that happening before the belmont.
Do you always go this far out on a limb with your predictions?
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No, not always.
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Old 05-26-2012, 10:07 PM
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Nasal strips have been around for at least a decade and have not been make "legal" in NY for use on TB's. The decision is not NYRA's. As on other things NYRA is bound by the laws and regulations governing racing in the state. Those regulators have not seen fit to permit the strips and thus the NYRA cannot just allow their use.

I am still amazed at how many people who profess to follow racing in this state don't know the difference between the New York Racing Association (NYRA, which runs Belmont, Saratoga and Aqueduct) and the regulatory body, the New York State Racing and Wagering Board. I work for Capital OTB and cannot tell you how often I field questions from customers about NYRA (and other tracks) that clearly indicate that the person asking doesn't know that we (Cap OTB) are NOT producing the broadcast from the tracks. Blackthroatedwind, you can rest assured than several Cap OTB patrons were concerned about your absence on Preakness weekend.
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