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that's as bad as hutchinsons pal down here saying if you aren't a razorback fan you're a communist. apparently i was unaware that i was a commie. glad it's been set straight for me.
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Know who oughta be shot? Anyone who ever dared compare him to Ghostzapper. Ghostzapper would have urinated on him and left him a mile behind. I saw Ghostzapper, and Bernadini is no Ghostzapper. Last edited by oracle80 : 11-06-2006 at 06:31 PM. |
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![]() he was good, pretty good. but not a freak or a superhorse. he was not as bad as some are now saying, certainly not as good as others claimed he was...as for GZ, apparently those were the good old days, when a horse ran more than one year.
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When Ghostzapper was around, all anybody could do was bitch and whine about how he only ran four or five races a year. Now those are the good old days. |
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So let me get this straight, because he lost by A LENGTH to Invasor, he's "nowhere near as good as Invasor"? Hmm.. |
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Ghostzapper never got spoken about with the sheer obnoxious attitude that Berns' fans had. Even to the end, some had doubts about the mile and a quarter. Ironically, Ateam was the guy on our old board who was his biggest outright supporter. I myself had a little doubt about GZ and the 10 furlongs. But after I saw that race, I was just convinced he was the best horse i ever saw. The way Bern was spoken about by his fans, and the way that those with doubts about him were spoken to is the issue. In reality 31 lengths? Honestly? I wish he was running next year. He may have been a Bid, and Affirmed, or a Zapper. But we won't ever know. This was never really about bern the horse, it was just like the USC fans last year, just so over the top that you had to hate them even if you really didn't. |
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![]() Personally, I disliked the horse himself
he's a real ass, and owned by the sand monkeys |
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this is a horse racing board.....where everyone who loves horse racing should feel welcome. ignorant and pejorative terms like "sand monkey" do not belong here.
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In 4 seasons Ghostzapper raced 11 times. What a champion. LOL. |
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I'm reading all these posts by delusional people who are explaining like he didn't really lose or that hes still just as good as advertised, and then they are getting mad at folks telling it like it is? Lemme see if I got this figured out Zieg, apparently Bern is still just as good as Spectacular Bid or Ghostzapper, so I guess that makes Invasor a real life version of the fabled Pegasus, the horse with wings who could fly. This is absolutely the funniest thing I ever saw in my life, truly. Fact is he wasn't even Barbaro, and had Barbaro not been injured he would have bitch slapped him as well. Invasor will now forever me my favorite horse of all time, replacing Personal Ensign, for had it not been for Invasor we'd have listen to delusinal rantings about this "best horse who ever looked through a bridle" for years. |
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I tried to tell everyone, and posted it one thousand times, but noone gets it or at least very few get it. Ragozin did a study years ago, found horses ALWAYS ran their lifetime best numbers in "easy wins". The whole fallacy(cough cough Eurobounce, revolution, Betsy, ahem) that a horse who wins with no pressure could go faster is exactly that, a total fallacy. Its a lot harder to run fast when someone gets in your face. And I personally don't think that him not being as good as Invasor is the only issue, he didn't even offer token resistance when eyeballed, he surrendered in a fashion that would make even the French Army proud. I predicted he was a bully who when eyeballed would fold all year long, and I posted it a thousand times. He got eyeballed, and he didn't even try to fight back. |
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i can't believe that the horse was set at even money, and i can't believe anyone would single him. and i really, really, can't believe that anyone really feels bernardini didn't run his race. he did. but it was against seasoned veterans, some of the best in the world. and i really expected a response when invasor came up on him. i wanted to see a fight to the wire. didn't happen.
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Actually I knew it was over turning for home. I could see that Jara had a handful and the biggest tipoff was that he didn't angle even wider on the turn and panic and go full bore. He waited until they were straightened away and when he threw that first cross you could see Invasor just attack. I was screaming loudly"The paper tiger is DONE!!!!" over and over again before he even actually collared him because there was no doubt in my mind he was gonna go by. Whats sickening is that anybody is even attempting to make an excuse fro bern. Had he won the race we'd have to listen to how he was the greatest horse ever, blah blah blah just like we just did for 3 months. Yet Invasor wins 4 grade ones in 4 US starts at 4 different racetracks, including a BC where he was forced to miss his last and very important prep and he still crushed them. Where is the love for this horse and the fine job that Kiarin Mclaughlin and his staff did? Are you ****ing kidding me? I mean, everyone gushes over Albertrani all year long, and he gets to get his prep race in unhindered while kiarin has to sit with Invasor(due to the cough ![]() |
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![]() i thought songster was your favorite....lol..he dini didint spit the bit when challenged.....you and your gut check bs is laughable..he made his run to early..and jara made his at the right time..thats it....the fact that he skipped the prep to this made alot of sense..he had a fresh horse..congrats to invasor...but hes not any better than a lenth..at least on this day..sun king who got to invasor late ..where was he..
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If Jara had so much horse, how is it that a lack of heart was what did in Bernardini? Which ****ing one is it? Either Invasor was tons the best and Bernardini ran huge as well or they both are slow! And yeah, unbiased is definitely a word I would use to describe you. The guy who has never seen Pletcher or Dutrow or anybody he thinks he knows make a bad move ever. The guy who's done everything but sneak into Bernardini's barn and poison him at night. You're unbiased. You've been sucking Dutrow off for years and recently started on the Pletcher bandwagon because you "know" them, but now, no one else is allowed to do the same after they get to know Albertrani. You're a total hypocrite. Aren't you the man, too, for shouting "The paper tiger is done!" I'm sure you were the toast of the town and looked just as cool and sane as you always do when watching a race.. Quote:
All of this lack of heart stuff is absolute nonsense. If it hadn't been Bernardini on the rail, but Lava Man or one of the other Derby Trail heroes, you'd all be singing the same tune, right? That he folded? Of course you would. Last edited by ateamstupid : 11-06-2006 at 07:53 PM. |