Tuesday primaries

[Riot]

Wisconsin: Barret goes against Walker next election for Governor

Indiana: Romney wins! Still has no idea what his "convictions" are.

Long-time incumbent Senator Dick Lugar defeated by Tea Partier Richard Mourdock. This makes the fall Senate race a horse race now, with a great chance of the election now going to Democrat Joe Donnelly.

[GenuineRisk]

And North Carolina votes to take rights away from unmarried couples.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

And North Carolina votes to take rights away from unmarried couples.

OMG, I just saw that result. Unbelievable. Hello, America? 21st century here.


Bigotry and hate are alive and well. And publicly proud.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Riot

OMG, I just saw that result. Unbelievable. Hello, America? 21st century here.


Bigotry and hate are alive and well. And publicly proud.

Y'all be wrong bout that in NC...

[Riot]

Originally Posted by bigrun

Y'all be wrong bout that in NC...

I came to Kentucky from Chicago area, and used to live in Atlanta. Yeah, there's some culture shock within those states still fighting the War of Northern Aggression.

The Democratic Convention is in North Carolina. That will be interesting ....

So I wonder what North Carolinians will do when they discover they've just removed a lot of rights from unmarried heterosexual couples? PS, this is already headed to court.

Strange how those that scream so loudly for "Constitutional rights" are the first ones to take them away from fellow Americans.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

And North Carolina votes to take rights away from unmarried couples.

“Marriage remains an essential social institution which unites men and women to provide for the reproduction of the human race and to provide mothers and fathers for children. We trust that the voters of North Carolina will recognize and protect this vital public purpose of marriage."


i call bullshit.

allowing same sex partners to marry wouldn't prevent men and women from marrying.
the truth is closer to:

we don't think people should marry someone of the same sex. it's wrooong. the bible says so.


i think states and the fed should remove all benefits granted by govt to married couples. boy, that would be interesting, wouldn't it? it's the only other way to make sure all are treated equally.

Originally Posted by Riot

I came to Kentucky from Chicago area, and used to live in Atlanta. Yeah, there's some culture shock within those states still fighting the War of Northern Aggression.

The Democratic Convention is in North Carolina. That will be interesting ....

So I wonder what North Carolinians will do when they discover they've just removed a lot of rights from unmarried heterosexual couples? PS, this is already headed to court.

Strange how those that scream so loudly for "Constitutional rights" are the first ones to take them away from fellow Americans.

It's strange how you assume wrong, twat.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Wisconsin: Barret goes against Walker next election for Governor

Indiana: Romney wins! Still has no idea what his "convictions" are.

Long-time incumbent Senator Dick Lugar defeated by Tea Partier Richard Mourdock. This makes the fall Senate race a horse race now, with a great chance of the election now going to Democrat Joe Donnelly.

HUGE WIN FOR THE PUBLIC UNIONS in WI yesterday. They spent over $5 million on a candidate that lost to a guy that doesn't support them by 24 points. Voting for Barrett is only voting against Walker not for Tom Barrett. Barrett has proven time and time again he will do absolutely nothing. Just take a look at what he has done as the Mayor of the City of Milwaukee. Should be a fun 4 weeks

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

And North Carolina votes to take rights away from unmarried couples.

Then the unmarried couples should leave NC for a state that supports them. States competing with each other is a great thing for this country. If NC wants to be that kind of state they should lose their gay population.
I am shocked that CO went the same route, very shocked as this state has struck me as being very socially liberal despite it's Christian population, hunting and fishing population and rural areas.
My neighbor showed up at my Kentucky Derby party to announce her candidacy for state senate on Saturday. Despite my more conservative leanings most of my friends are younger couples, the majority of which work in the education system. Her showing up and letting everyone know she was running (after a good three hour head start on drinking) then sharing her views, including being "staunchly against the SIN of gay marriage" raised quite a few hackles amongst my guests and I had to ask her to leave as a Derby/Cinco party is no place for debate. Once again I am forced to consider the democratic candidate based on the Rep. being a religious nut.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Then the unmarried couples should leave NC for a state that supports them. States competing with each other is a great thing for this country. If NC wants to be that kind of state they should lose their gay population.
I am shocked that CO went the same route, very shocked as this state has struck me as being very socially liberal despite it's Christian population, hunting and fishing population and rural areas.
My neighbor showed up at my Kentucky Derby party to announce her candidacy for state senate on Saturday. Despite my more conservative leanings most of my friends are younger couples, the majority of which work in the education system. Her showing up and letting everyone know she was running (after a good three hour head start on drinking) then sharing her views, including being "staunchly against the SIN of gay marriage" raised quite a few hackles amongst my guests and I had to ask her to leave as a Derby/Cinco party is no place for debate. Once again I am forced to consider the democratic candidate based on the Rep. being a religious nut.

You actually booted a neighbor out of your Kentucky Derby party?

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by jms62

You actually booted a neighbor out of your Kentucky Derby party?

Sure did, not only did she come in talking politics, but she showed up with her dog (I have two less than accommodating large dogs), came empty handed (I was brought up to never go anywhere empty handed) and she never lets people park on the public street in front of her house during the 4th of July fireworks in the park across the street. She was invited, as are all the neighbors, but I thought all of those combined transgressions meant she had to go.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Sure did, not only did she come in talking politics, but she showed up with her dog (I have two less than accommodating large dogs), came empty handed (I was brought up to never go anywhere empty handed) and she never lets people park on the public street in front of her house during the 4th of July fireworks in the park across the street. She was invited, as are all the neighbors, but I thought all of those combined transgressions meant she had to go.

Sounds like a self-absorbed A*Hole she will fit in well as a politician.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by jms62

Sounds like a self-absorbed A*Hole she will fit in well as a politician.

She is and she will. Though I think she will have a very hard time getting votes.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

HUGE WIN FOR THE PUBLIC UNIONS in WI yesterday. They spent over $5 million on a candidate that lost to a guy that doesn't support them by 24 points. Voting for Barrett is only voting against Walker not for Tom Barrett. Barrett has proven time and time again he will do absolutely nothing. Just take a look at what he has done as the Mayor of the City of Milwaukee. Should be a fun 4 weeks

Starting with Barrett's win yesterday every single union and other candidate came out in full support. You're right, it will be a fun 4 weeks, and Wisconsin will decide. Nearly a million Wisconsin voters already decided Walker should undergo a recall election, thus he is. That's a historic lack of confidence by the electorate right there. I've seen zero indication that Walker has gotten the message that he represents all of Wisconsin, not just the Koch brothers.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i think states and the fed should remove all benefits granted by govt to married couples. boy, that would be interesting, wouldn't it? it's the only other way to make sure all are treated equally.

Ooooh, interesting .... I like it!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Then the unmarried couples should leave NC for a state that supports them. States competing with each other is a great thing for this country. If NC wants to be that kind of state they should lose their gay population.

The research triangle will probably suffer. Few want to raise their kids in a social nest of bigots and haters.

NC already had outlawed gay marriage. That existed before this vote. But now, with this constitutional amendment passed (it's not passed yet, it was a referendum), the fear is the amendment removes current legal protections from all unmarried couples, including heterosexuals. Things like right to visit in hospital, orders of protection against domestic violence, etc.

As 'Zig pointed out, this is entirely about a religious cult forcing their theocratic beliefs on an entire state. It's exactly the "Sharia Law" that these very same theocratic loons fear.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Starting with Barrett's win yesterday every single union and other candidate came out in full support. You're right, it will be a fun 4 weeks, and Wisconsin will decide. Nearly a million Wisconsin voters already decided Walker should undergo a recall election, thus he is. That's a historic lack of confidence by the electorate right there. I've seen zero indication that Walker has gotten the message that he represents all of Wisconsin, not just the Koch brothers.

How many of those so called million people that forced the recall showed up yesterday in support of their candidate? How many people voted for walker in a meaningless primary for walker? If this recall was about unions and collective bargaining they lost yesterday

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

How many of those so called million people that forced the recall showed up yesterday in support of their candidate? How many people voted for walker in a meaningless primary for walker? If this recall was about unions and collective bargaining they lost yesterday

Yesterday hardly was any statement at all about "unions and recalls". That comes in four weeks.

Yesterday was another election in a state rocked by multiple elections and recalls, and this election wasn't even mentioned in multiple small-town Wisconsin newspapers. Election fatigue is real. The turnout was pretty good, however. Hard to tell what's what with the crossover Dems who voted for that kid running against Walker.

But more Dems voted than GOP. If the same dedicated voters on both sides come out in four weeks, Barrett wins easily.

But everyone knows that yesterday hardly matters, in comparison to what happens at the recall election for Walker and other current office-holders four weeks from now.

If Walker holds his office (I don't think he will, but we'll see - he's had millions from out-of-state big donors funneled in to try and hold the seat), doubtful he'll have the GOP state legislature that has allowed him free reign to do the ALEC legislative bidding that he and the Fitz's have done so far.

The electorate is fed up, and both sides are acting within their rights, meeting what is required, and doing what responsible voters do - signing petitions and voting.

[Riot]

MADISON, Wis. (AP) — Turnout for the recall primary election broke 30 percent, the highest for a partisan primary in Wisconsin in 60 years.

More than 1.3 million people cast ballots Tuesday, which equates to 30.2 percent of eligible voters statewide. Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett won a four-way race for the Democratic nomination, while Republican Gov. Scott Walker easily overcame token opposition on the GOP side.

About 670,000 votes were cast for one of the Democratic candidates, with Barrett getting about 387,000 votes. About 646,000 votes were cast on the Republican side.

This is the first gubernatorial recall election in Wisconsin history so there are no comparable primaries with which to compare it. However, the previous high turnout for a regular fall primary was 38.9 percent in 1952 based on records dating to 1948.

http://gazettextra.com/weblogs/lates...ks-30-percent/

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

MADISON, Wis. (AP) — Turnout for the recall primary election broke 30 percent, the highest for a partisan primary in Wisconsin in 60 years.

More than 1.3 million people cast ballots Tuesday, which equates to 30.2 percent of eligible voters statewide. Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett won a four-way race for the Democratic nomination, while Republican Gov. Scott Walker easily overcame token opposition on the GOP side.

About 670,000 votes were cast for one of the Democratic candidates, with Barrett getting about 387,000 votes. About 646,000 votes were cast on the Republican side.

This is the first gubernatorial recall election in Wisconsin history so there are no comparable primaries with which to compare it. However, the previous high turnout for a regular fall primary was 38.9 percent in 1952 based on records dating to 1948.

http://gazettextra.com/weblogs/lates...ks-30-percent/

The guy running against Walker received 19,920 votes so cross over from the democrats did not really exist.

Barrett is the Mayor of Milwaukee with the most job losses in the state coming from milwaukee and the highest unemployment by 2% as compared to the rest of the state. He has never held to a single campaign promise and used Walker's reforms to help save Milwaukee $. He has failed terribly as a mayor and has NEVER stood his ground for anything. Glad to see that the democrats think he is qualified to run the state seeing that he has been so good for Milwaukee. Add up Falk and Barrett's votes they are less than Walker votes when many republicans did not take time to vote or crossed over and voted for Falk. If this recall was so important and was really about Collective bargaining then those people that signed the recall petition would have showed up and showed their support. They did not. Now the fun begins and the truth about Tom Barrett comes out again.