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Old 05-04-2012, 06:34 PM
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I don't consider her less a victim because she chose to live with a woman beater, I feel very sorry for her, I still think she made a stupid choice in light of the fact she no doubt knows his history.
Intelligence has absolutely nothing to do with it. It's not about someone getting it through their head that 'hey you shouldn't be with that guy, he hits women.' These situations often happen because of self esteem issues, not the victim being devoid of logic or lacking information. Many incredibly bright women have started relationships they shouldn't have. They've been beaten nearly to death and gone back to their abusers.Takes a lot for many people to get rid of the idea that they deserve what's happening to them when they get hit by a partner. I don't want to assume what's going on with this particular woman, but as for why she started the relationship, it could've well been because Robby swore his wife was lying to cause trouble.
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Old 05-04-2012, 06:54 PM
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just walk away.be a man..hes got issues..anyone who hits a woman is a punk..i understand that they can make you nutz.. but walk away..i hope willy cuts his balls off..
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Old 05-04-2012, 09:15 PM
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Intelligence has absolutely nothing to do with it. It's not about someone getting it through their head that 'hey you shouldn't be with that guy, he hits women.' These situations often happen because of self esteem issues, not the victim being devoid of logic or lacking information. Many incredibly bright women have started relationships they shouldn't have. They've been beaten nearly to death and gone back to their abusers.Takes a lot for many people to get rid of the idea that they deserve what's happening to them when they get hit by a partner. I don't want to assume what's going on with this particular woman, but as for why she started the relationship, it could've well been because Robby swore his wife was lying to cause trouble.
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Old 05-04-2012, 09:26 PM
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I don't get 99% of women. A lot of times the attractive ones are especially messed up.

Going up and being nice, good-natured, and saying flattering things is absolute death with attractive women.

Drilling them with a snow-ball before you've ever met them -- or greeting them with a subtle put-down or two is the stuff that can work.

That gender makes absolutely no-sense to me. Maybe the PAP Sheets guy with the messed up hair, dark circles under his eye, 1980's tv, and punched in wall really does have them figured out and is a legit pick-up artist guru like he claims in his book.
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Old 05-04-2012, 09:51 PM
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I don't get 99% of women. A lot of times the attractive ones are especially messed up.

Going up and being nice, good-natured, and saying flattering things is absolute death with attractive women.

Drilling them with a snow-ball before you've ever met them -- or greeting them with a subtle put-down or two is the stuff that can work.

That gender makes absolutely no-sense to me. Maybe the PAP Sheets guy with the messed up hair, dark circles under his eye, 1980's tv, and punched in wall really does have them figured out and is a legit pick-up artist guru like he claims in his book.
I hear you. It's difficult to explain but I'll give it a shot. Ladies, chime in if you have something to add here.

For some reason, the guy with the snow ball is believed to be a better catch than the good natured guy that pulls out a chair for you.

Here's my theory:

This dates back to the days when we lived in caves and grunted at each other. Women are somehow programed to think that the guy with the snow ball is going to be a better hunter and provider, (and more fun) than the guy who is good natured that pulls out a chair for you. It's as simple as that.

Regarding the case being discussed = Women with low self-esteem tend to 'settle'. Deep down they figure they are where they should be or belong. Females have to have respect for themselves to envision themselves with the guy that throws the snowball, brings home the fresh kill, protects them, makes strong healthy babies, and makes them happy, and never abuses them.
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Old 05-05-2012, 12:18 AM
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I hear you. It's difficult to explain but I'll give it a shot. Ladies, chime in if you have something to add here.

For some reason, the guy with the snow ball is believed to be a better catch than the good natured guy that pulls out a chair for you.

Here's my theory:

This dates back to the days when we lived in caves and grunted at each other. Women are somehow programed to think that the guy with the snow ball is going to be a better hunter and provider, (and more fun) than the guy who is good natured that pulls out a chair for you. It's as simple as that.

Regarding the case being discussed = Women with low self-esteem tend to 'settle'. Deep down they figure they are where they should be or belong. Females have to have respect for themselves to envision themselves with the guy that throws the snowball, brings home the fresh kill, protects them, makes strong healthy babies, and makes them happy, and never abuses them.
Holding out a chair doesn't make a man a nice guy. Most women can tell the difference between the actually nice guy and the one who is merely pretending to be nice because he's hoping to get laid. There are a lot of guys who do the holding out the chair, saying nice things, blah blah blah, but it doesn't matter; we can smell the anger coming off of them a mile away. At least the assh*le is being honest about who he is.

Which is not to say we don't make a lot of dumb choices in our teens and 20s, but most of us figure it out eventually. I have a friend who is a genuinely nice guy who I remember despairing over being single in his 20s. He ended up marrying a 5'9" redhead (taller than he is!) because while she was willing to date jerks, she didn't want to marry one.

You're right that we're a lot more practical about choosing mates than we like to appear, but it's not about some he-man provider; it's about someone we think we'll still like talking to when we both get old and wrinkly and talking is all you have left. A guy who pulls out the chair for us because he's just naturally kind, not because he thinks it'll score points with us, will do just fine. Believe me.

Oh, and being funny. We like that.
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Old 05-05-2012, 04:45 AM
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Holding out a chair doesn't make a man a nice guy. Most women can tell the difference between the actually nice guy and the one who is merely pretending to be nice because he's hoping to get laid. There are a lot of guys who do the holding out the chair, saying nice things, blah blah blah, but it doesn't matter; we can smell the anger coming off of them a mile away. At least the assh*le is being honest about who he is.

Which is not to say we don't make a lot of dumb choices in our teens and 20s, but most of us figure it out eventually. I have a friend who is a genuinely nice guy who I remember despairing over being single in his 20s. He ended up marrying a 5'9" redhead (taller than he is!) because while she was willing to date jerks, she didn't want to marry one.

You're right that we're a lot more practical about choosing mates than we like to appear, but it's not about some he-man provider; it's about someone we think we'll still like talking to when we both get old and wrinkly and talking is all you have left. A guy who pulls out the chair for us because he's just naturally kind, not because he thinks it'll score points with us, will do just fine. Believe me.

Oh, and being funny. We like that.
That's a great concept but I don't think it happens as often as you think. If I had read your post 20 years ago.....
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Old 05-05-2012, 02:31 PM
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Women have brains a third the size of men. It's science.
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Old 05-05-2012, 02:58 PM
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That's a great concept but I don't think it happens as often as you think. If I had read your post 20 years ago.....
I didn't say it happens OFTEN. If it did, divorce rates wouldn't be at 50 percent, right?

Sometimes we're dumb enough to think the cute but boring guy will eventually turn into a good conversationalist if we just wait long enough. I spent two years in my 20s breaking my own heart over a guy, who, every time I actually talked to him, bored me to tears. But in my head, he was the most interesting guy ever! No one that attractive could really be that boring! Yeesh.

Fortunately, he had the good sense not to ask me out ever (probably because I bored him). He eventually married a really nice former coworker and last I heard, they're very happy. I can't imagine what they talk about though.
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Old 05-04-2012, 09:52 PM
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Drilling them with a snow-ball before you've ever met them -- or greeting them with a subtle put-down or two is the stuff that can work.
Just when I thought you couldn't get any dumber...you go and pull a stunt like this...

AND TOTALLY REDEEM YOURSELF!

Who the fucl<gives you your dating advice?

Lloyd Christmas?

Come to think of it, I see a physical resemblance.

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Old 05-04-2012, 10:01 PM
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DrugS's dating tips at work:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MPvK0nOKI0
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Old 05-05-2012, 01:01 AM
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DrugS's dating tips at work:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MPvK0nOKI0
More like pull a $50 bill out of my pocket.

You're silk. I wouldn't be surprised if you could pull off getting a date with a hottie just by being nice. I'm like zero for 84 at that.
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Old 05-05-2012, 01:43 AM
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I'm going to write a sequel to the famous book "Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus".

It will be titled "Men are from Mars, Women are from another fugging galaxy".
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I don't get 99% of women. A lot of times the attractive ones are especially messed up.

Going up and being nice, good-natured, and saying flattering things is absolute death with attractive women.

Drilling them with a snow-ball before you've ever met them -- or greeting them with a subtle put-down or two is the stuff that can work.

That gender makes absolutely no-sense to me. Maybe the PAP Sheets guy with the messed up hair, dark circles under his eye, 1980's tv, and punched in wall really does have them figured out and is a legit pick-up artist guru like he claims in his book.
Hold onto that girlfriend.
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Old 05-05-2012, 12:51 AM
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Hold onto that girlfriend.
I first talked to her commenting on a mutual friends post on Facebook.

Through the magic of GMail's search function ... here is a recap of how I obtained her.

Our first four exchanges ever:




















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Old 05-05-2012, 02:56 AM
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I first talked to her commenting on a mutual friends post on Facebook.

Through the magic of GMail's search function ... here is a recap of how I obtained her.





IMHO, this exchange "set the hook"... she had already swallowed the bait based on info from your mutual friends or that pic of you with the handsome Roan over your right shoulder.

More importantly, is that not RH1085 asking to dress you up?
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Old 05-05-2012, 03:39 PM
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IMHO, this exchange "set the hook"... she had already swallowed the bait based on info from your mutual friends or that pic of you with the handsome Roan over your right shoulder.

More importantly, is that not RH1085 asking to dress you up?
Excellent point. Never underestimate the appeal of a pretty horsie.
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