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Old 11-05-2006, 10:14 PM
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Frankly, I think you have no idea what you are talking about. Is it at all possible that Invasor was better. Nah, can't be that, have to blame someone right? And you are acting like Bernie rode the rail. that was him moving 3 wide around the turn right? Since you know so much, what exactly did Albertrani do wrong in his training of the horse? Since the way you are talking, the ability and talent of the horse doesn't matter, just who trains who better. I think McLaughlin is a tremendous trainer, but wasn't Henny hughes up the track? Was he out trained by Doug O'Neill? Did Albertrani out the other 12 trainers in the Classic? Don't get this logic.
you are typing and assuming a bunch of things about my comments that are incorrect.

are you Albertrani's shoe shiner or something?

stop reading things into my words that are not there.

Bernardini clearly did not run his best race of the year on Saturday.
invasor clearly did.
McLaughlin and his team had their horse ready.
that is what i typed.
stop getting so damn emotional about it.
you must be a chic.



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Old 11-05-2006, 10:24 PM
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Well no this is what you wrote:

"anyone who thinks Albertrani did not get out trained needs to have their head examined"

Of course McLaughlin had his horse ready, he's a great trainer. And Albertrani had his as well. And it was wise of you to back up, since obviously you had nothing of substance to say. And no I'm not a "chic", and I'm not getting emotional, if you want to post crap, expect to have it put in your face.
I did not back up on anything moron.

I typed what I typed.

Invasor ran the best race of his year on Sat.
Bern did not.
trainer deserves credit for that.

to read anything more into what I typed is incorrect.

you are a moron.
read into that what you want.


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Old 11-05-2006, 10:28 PM
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I did not back up on anything moron.

I typed what I typed.

Invasor ran the best race of his year on Sat.
Bern did not.
trainer deserves credit for that.

to read anything more into what I typed is incorrect.

you are a moron.
read into that what you want.


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So the trainer is 100% responsible for how a horse is going to perform on any given day??? Come on brother--that is almost laughable to think. Maybe Dini was in a bad mood, maybe he had a headache, maybe he was scared--we have no clue what is going on in the horses head. But if you think it is the trainers fault because a horse doesnt run his/her best on a certain day then you need some help. These horses arent machines.
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Old 11-05-2006, 10:29 PM
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So the trainer is 100% responsible for how a horse is going to perform on any given day??? Come on brother--that is almost laughable to think. Maybe Dini was in a bad mood, maybe he had a headache, maybe he was scared--we have no clue what is going on in the horses head. But if you think it is the trainers fault because a horse doesnt run his/her best on a certain day then you need some help. These horses arent machines.

are you ppl seriously this freaking stupid?

I did not type that.
what the f*ck are you reading?


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Old 11-05-2006, 10:32 PM
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are you ppl seriously this freaking stupid?

I did not type that.
what the f*ck are you reading?


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Apparently you are the one that is stupid. If three people are reading and thinking the same then obviously you didnt choose your words carefully. Maybe you are pulling a John Kerry.
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Old 11-05-2006, 10:35 PM
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Apparently you are the one that is stupid. If three people are reading and thinking the same then obviously you didnt choose your words carefully. Maybe you are pulling a John Kerry.
no,
its 2 ppl.
you and DaHoss .

I typed what i typed.
you want to read more into it, then go ahead.
but you are incorrect.


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Old 11-05-2006, 10:37 PM
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no,
its 2 ppl.
you and DaHoss .

I typed what i typed.
you want to read more into it, then go ahead.
but you are incorrect.


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Sniper chimed in so I counted him/her as well.
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Old 11-05-2006, 11:00 PM
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Guys, no matter what happened, both horses were tremendous! Both horses and both trainers deserve our respect for delighting us. It was an great race, and will go down in history books. P.s. hope you guys made money, I did, love that super!!!!!
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Old 11-05-2006, 10:34 PM
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Well, you wrote "anyone who thinks Albertrani did not get out trained needs to have their head examined." Don't think I'm really reading into anything. So if Albertrani did get out trained, as YOU and Oracle say, what did Albertrani do wrong, in your opinion? And I will ask you this, was McLaughlin out trained by Doug O'Neill, because Henny Hughes was awful on Saturday. I just think Invasor was better. That's it. And Tom Albertrani is a class guy.

what did Albertraini do wrong?
his horse ran well below his previous efforts in the most important race of the year.
what were the reasons?
I dont know and I dont care.
but he is accountable, just as he was when Bern dominated at Saratoga and at Pimlico.
its his JOB to have the horse ready to run at his best.
everyone has bad days at their job, and Sat was his.


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Old 11-05-2006, 10:36 PM
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what did Albertraini do wrong?
his horse ran well below his previous efforts in the most important race of the year.
what were the reasons?
I dont know and I dont care.
but he is accountable, just as he was when Bern dominated at Saratoga and at Pimlico.
its his JOB to have the horse ready to run at his best.
everyone has bad days at their job, and Sat was his.


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Again, how did he run below his previous efforts? What makes you think that? Is it because he came in 2nd??? Maybe Invasor ran above his head yesterday. Who knows---the point in this is that a trainer cannot get out-trained at this level. They only do what they can only do and the rest is up to the horse.
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Old 11-05-2006, 10:42 PM
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what did Albertraini do wrong?
his horse ran well below his previous efforts in the most important race of the year.
what were the reasons?
I dont know and I dont care.
but he is accountable, just as he was when Bern dominated at Saratoga and at Pimlico.
its his JOB to have the horse ready to run at his best.
everyone has bad days at their job, and Sat was his.


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Bernardini most certainly did not run well below his previous efforts.
He destroyed a collection of the worlds best dirt horses save for one who only beat him by a length.
Invasor did not run any better than he normally does.
Invasor is as good or better than Bernardini,
The loss was just a loss and not a sign of a poor training job by TA.
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Old 11-06-2006, 07:13 AM
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Bernardini most certainly did not run well below his previous efforts.
He destroyed a collection of the worlds best dirt horses save for one who only beat him by a length.
Invasor did not run any better than he normally does.
Invasor is as good or better than Bernardini,
The loss was just a loss and not a sign of a poor training job by TA.
Exactly - it's not like Bernardini ran last. He ran a very good race against a very good older horse, but it wasn't enough. Unfortunately, it happens. Tom had no control over how any of the other horses ran in the race. His colt ran terrific, but what was he supposed to do about Invasor? It happens - it's not Bernardini ran up the track.

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Old 11-06-2006, 05:35 PM
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Albertrani is indeed a classy guy, and handled the loss with dignity and class.
When I said he was outrun and outrained it was not a knock on him, it was meant as an incredible job by Kiarin.
Invasor missed his prep(the ole cough ) and Kiarin then had to get him ready to run on training alone. I'm shocked but guess I shouldn't be to be reading this crap on here on different threads that actually tries to make excuses for Bernadini. He had his ideal prep, he drew a great post(on that scraped inside track), and got a great trip getting first run on the speed. Invasor drew the 11 hole(other 4 dirt races were won by horses who drew post 1), missed his prep, and had to circle wide and motored on by Bern.
Albertrani did an awesoem job this year with Bern, he really did. He won a classic race with him, he kept him sound, and he ran 2nd in the BCC. Not much else you can really ask of a guy. Bern ran his race on BC day, he just wasn't anywhere near as good as Invasor. Quite frankly if Invasor met him again in a month he'd beat him by 5-7 lengths. The layoff and post worked against him.
Albertrani certainly has nothing to be ashamed of with this horse, he will be crowned a champion and noone can take that off his resume.
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