Great Piece: Equine Athlete Psychology

[GenuineRisk]

The analysis of Bodemeister made me think of Jane Smiley's description of the fictional colt Limitless in Horse Heaven.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

The analysis of Bodemeister made me think of Jane Smiley's description of the fictional colt Limitless in Horse Heaven.

Wow, I just read the profile for Bodemeister based on your post.

That pretty much confirms this guy is full of crap. How can differentiate between Bodemeister and Trinniberg based on their running styles and desire to be on the lead?

What a conman.

[clambeau]

like I said earlier...we'll have to wait and see if this guy's full of crap or not...dont dig yourself too big a hole there Charlie

[Indian Charlie]

Dude, he likes the favorites.

Shocking.

How can he assign such radically different assessments to Bodemeister and Trinniberg when they have the same running style?

Why can Bode win but not Trinniberg, from a psychological handicapping angle?

I'll tell you why. It's because everyone knows Trinniberg is not going to win and it's safe to throw him out.

[Danzig]

does this guy also sell pap sheets?

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Danzig

does this guy also sell pap sheets?

It's probably pretty useful for smears.

[clambeau]

unless you're reading something other than the link I posted, I don't think this guy is telling you who's gonna win...he's just putting into words what he's been observing in the Derby horses previous races. I'll read the darn thing again but I still wont see him giving anyone the Derby winner....

He's not charging anything for his opinion for cryin out loud.....cheez!!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by clambeau

unless you're reading something other than the link I posted, I don't think this guy is telling you who's gonna win...he's just putting into words what he's been observing in the Derby horses previous races. I'll read the darn thing again but I still wont see him giving anyone the Derby winner....

He's not charging anything for his opinion for cryin out loud.....cheez!!

Good grief. This isn't magic. All he's doing is accurately describing normal herd horse behaviour, that jockeys and trainers and exercise riders have known for years: some horses panic when surrounded. Some are aggressive and like to intimidate. Some won't run on out in front by themselves. Some don't like other horses coming up behind. Some stick to a buddy like glue and won't go ahead themselves. Some mentally dominate a challenger when they run alongside it. It's the very same physical things we do to horses, with our body motion, to gain dominance when we break them in a round pen when they are young.

It's no different than someone watching horses work in the am, and interpreting "how" the horse was feeling and acting during the work (aside from the time)

If someone has never ridden or trained horses, and doesn't know how horses think and act, I can see how it would be impossible to figure out what the guy was talking about.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

How can he assign such radically different assessments to Bodemeister and Trinniberg when they have the same running style? .

Because they are not being assessed by "running style".

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Riot

Because they are not being assessed by "running style".

Thank you for helping my argument.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Thank you for helping my argument.

If somebody ever hands you a stable pony, and say, "Here. Just stand here and hold on" - don't take the assignment.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by clambeau

like I said earlier...we'll have to wait and see if this guy's full of crap or not...dont dig yourself too big a hole there Charlie

He matches what several of the trainers have said about their horses.