DERBY/OAKS DAWN PATROL: (5/1) Valeski out, Optimizer in..

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Injun Chuck,

I went into the write up liking the fact that he showed potential to move forward off the FL Derby where he wasn't as bad as people might think. And fig-wise, he's actually been pairing up and is completely in line with all the obvious, lower-priced options. He has a good style for how I think the race flow is going develop as well. The problem, if he indeed has gone the wrong way, is that the Risen Star corker gutted him and Mark Valeski and it will be a while before he's back to where it appeared he was headed. While Jones & Jones may OK a start Wednesday after his jog, Valeski appears to be sideways right now as well..

OMG, I totally forgot he ran in the Fla Derby.

While a bit better of a performance, perhaps, than his race in Louisianna, it really wasn't much to get excited about.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

OMG, I totally forgot he ran in the Fla Derby. While a bit better of a performance, perhaps, than his race in Louisianna, it really wasn't much to get excited about.

Neither was Thunder Gulch's Blue Grass..

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Neither was Thunder Gulch's Blue Grass..

I suppose. And I suppose you could fine quite a few Derby winners that had a lackluster, or worrisome final prep.

Secretariat for instance.

However, these horses had established form and had run in top races, distinguishing themselves quite well.

Can't really say that for El Padrino.

[Conrad]

El Padrino is getting a look because of his positive figure pattern.
He is supposedly set for a good performance, and his best puts him in contention (minus the big Bode number).

Initially I liked him but his last work has me concerned.

[Rootdog1]

"I'm very unhappy about the reports on El Padrino, but the picks were an attempt to send a message about how to approach the race."

Steve - What did you mean by this? Are the reports that he is not looking so well??? I had not heard that, so any info is great.

Many Thanks

[herkhorse]

Rousing Sermon is my suck up for 3rd or 4th Horse.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by Rootdog1

"I'm very unhappy about the reports on El Padrino, but the picks were an attempt to send a message about how to approach the race."

Steve - What did you mean by this? Are the reports that he is not looking so well??? I had not heard that, so any info is great.

Many Thanks

GOOD!!!!

Not looking so GOOD!!!!!!

Why does everyone in horse racing insist on using "well" instead of "good"????? The HRTV and TVG people do this all the time and it drives me up a god.damn wall.

It has to be the fact that you are supposed to say "I don't feel well" or "I didn't play well" as opposed to "I don't feel good" or "I didn't play good". But in the sense of describing how a horse looks, it is OK to say "he looks good."

[Rootdog1]

Originally Posted by justindew

GOOD!!!!

Not looking so GOOD!!!!!!

Why does everyone in horse racing insist on using "well" instead of "good"????? The HRTV and TVG people do this all the time and it drives me up a god.damn wall.

It has to be the fact that you are supposed to say "I don't feel well" or "I didn't play well" as opposed to "I don't feel good" or "I didn't play good". But in the sense of describing how a horse looks, it is OK to say "he looks good."

Sounds like you are not feeling well. Did you get what I asking? sheeesh!

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by justindew

GOOD!!!!

Not looking so GOOD!!!!!!

Why does everyone in horse racing insist on using "well" instead of "good"????? The HRTV and TVG people do this all the time and it drives me up a god.damn wall.

It has to be the fact that you are supposed to say "I don't feel well" or "I didn't play well" as opposed to "I don't feel good" or "I didn't play good". But in the sense of describing how a horse looks, it is OK to say "he looks good."

Sounds like you might just wann take a deep breath and then key "Went the Day Good" in your verticals on Saturday