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Danzig · #1 11-05-2006, 02:19 PM

he could (altho i think this is NOT going to happen) run bernardini again this year, and try to go out a winner. obviously the chances of this happening are along the lines of not in a million years...

but maybe he'll be so po'd at losing to invasor he'll want another go at him.

skippy3481 · #2 11-05-2006, 08:19 PM

You would be devasted. How devestated would you be if the horse gets seriously hurt next year and for some reason can't be a stud. How would you feel then? Its a lose lose either way. If you run him you run the risk of him getting hurt and possibly not being a stud. If you retire him, you take away much of the risk but you don't get to see him run. It's very simple. If your in it for the prestige you run him next year. If your in this to make money, you retire him.

SniperSB23 · #3 11-05-2006, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by skippy3481

You would be devasted. How devestated would you be if the horse gets seriously hurt next year and for some reason can't be a stud. How would you feel then? Its a lose lose either way. If you run him you run the risk of him getting hurt and possibly not being a stud. If you retire him, you take away much of the risk but you don't get to see him run. It's very simple. If your in it for the prestige you run him next year. If your in this to make money, you retire him.

Or they just pay out $5 million for insurance on him next year and they are covered either way. It's not like they can't afford it.

skippy3481 · #4 11-05-2006, 08:49 PM

Insurance would be astronmical, I'm sure more then he would win in any races and it still doesn't protect the fact that you won't have have as a stallion.

GenuineRisk · #5 11-05-2006, 09:22 PM

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Insurance would be astronmical, I'm sure more then he would win in any races and it still doesn't protect the fact that you won't have have as a stallion.

Of course, these are the only owners in the world for whom insurance costs can't possibly be an issue!

I would hope the fact that he didn't win the Classic might stick enough in the Sheik's craw that he would want to keep him racing for one more year for Bernardini's reputation. I noticed that before the race, Jerry Bailey was saying, "Rarified, brilliant, etc., etc, pick your word to describe Bernardini" and after the race he said, "And here Invasor runs by a very, very good horse in Bernardini"-- how fast the superlatives fall after a loss, huh? From being compared to Affirmed to "very good" in two short minutes.

Betsy · #6 11-05-2006, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by skippy3481

You would be devasted. How devestated would you be if the horse gets seriously hurt next year and for some reason can't be a stud. How would you feel then? Its a lose lose either way. If you run him you run the risk of him getting hurt and possibly not being a stud. If you retire him, you take away much of the risk but you don't get to see him run. It's very simple. If your in it for the prestige you run him next year. If your in this to make money, you retire him.

What to do then? Everytime a promising horse runs big, retire him in case he gets hurt? I'd prefer to take my chances that Bernardini emerge unscathed next year so that he have the opportunity to fulfill his potential.

#7 11-06-2006, 07:17 AM

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What to do then? Everytime a promising horse runs big, retire him in case he gets hurt? I'd prefer to take my chances that Bernardini emerge unscathed next year so that he have the opportunity to fulfill his potential.

Its a matter of breeding economics... the question arises, what would Bernardini have to do next year to make him even more valuable than he is at this moment? It would have to be a hell of a campaign... a Mineshaft like effort. He may have the talent, but he may not. Strike while the iron is hot.

And people dont put enough thought behind how hard it is to lose a horse as an owner. The connections lost their golden boy young in Dubai Millenum... this is probably the first horse that can be equated to him. Im sure that plays a role in treating this horse a little differently than most... and being that much more protective.

2Hot4TV · #8 11-06-2006, 08:30 AM

They have everything to lose and nothing to gain by running Bernardini another year.