2011-2012 NHL playoff thread.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Another horribly officiated game but the Blueshirts are :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3b9g...e_gdata_player

In the end, it didn't matter - but how in the hell do they allow Ottawa's goal with 40 seconds left?

[golfer]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

In the end, it didn't matter - but how in the hell do they allow Ottawa's goal with 40 seconds left?

An overhead replay CLEARLY shows the reason why Neil had to attempt to kick the puck into the net.... his STICK was in the Lundquist's mid-section pushing him out of the crease

Nice to see the honcho's manning the replay review were as clueless as the officials on the ice last night.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

In the end, it didn't matter - but how in the hell do they allow Ottawa's goal with 40 seconds left?

I didn't watch any of the post game, but the only thing I could think of was that it was't conclusive that Neil actually made contact and kicked the puck in ( they credited Spezza with the goal). Obviously I thought it was a garbage call.

[golfer]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

I didn't watch any of the post game, but the only thing I could think of was that it was't conclusive that Neil actually made contact and kicked the puck in ( they credited Spezza with the goal). Obviously I thought it was a garbage call.

Sure, it would have been nice if the referee's microphone worked when announcing it was a goal.
I expected a full explanation this morning SOMEWHERE, but as of now, nothing. We can only surmise because the imbecile on the ice called it a goal (totally ignoring Neil's actions both with stick and foot), the other imbeciles felt they needed "conclusive" evidence to overturn it. It sure as hell looked conclusive to me.

Hank wasn't particularly pleased. And Neil threatening Del Zotto after the game is both laughable and potentially suspension worthy (I can recall a guy named Avery being suspended for off ice comments).

What we didn't see (at least I didn't, because I was focused on Neil's nonsense) was Michalek KICKING Girardi during that scrum. Supposedly it will be reviewed, although based on what's gone on to this point, can't help but expect nothing to come of it.

[slotdirt]

A couple things on the second Ottawa goal:

1. Video replay can't go back and call a penalty that went uncalled by the officials on the ice. Similar to the missed holding calls on every single touchdown return Devon Hester and Dante Hall ever made in their NFL careers.

2. While it looked like Neil attempted to kick the puck in the net, I can't say for certain whether he did or not. Given that there wasn't video evidence that he absolutely did kick the puck in, the folks in Toronto had to let the goal stand.

I'm curious to hear thoughts on the Del Zotto-Neil hit. I thought it was a questionable one - more questionable than Neil-Boyle - but also similar to Torres-Seabrook from the 2011 playoffs that did not result in a suspension. Just my two, completely unbiased cents.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

A couple things on the second Ottawa goal:

1. Video replay can't go back and call a penalty that went uncalled by the officials on the ice. Similar to the missed holding calls on every single touchdown return Devon Hester and Dante Hall ever made in their NFL careers.

2. While it looked like Neil attempted to kick the puck in the net, I can't say for certain whether he did or not. Given that there wasn't video evidence that he absolutely did kick the puck in, the folks in Toronto had to let the goal stand.

I'm curious to hear thoughts on the Del Zotto-Neil hit. I thought it was a questionable one - more questionable than Neil-Boyle - but also similar to Torres-Seabrook from the 2011 playoffs that did not result in a suspension. Just my two, completely unbiased cents.

I thought it was very similar hit to the one Neil put on Boyle (which I really didn't have a problem with). If a guy has his head down, it's hard to avoid hitting it when making or finishing your check. Case in point the hits against Seabrook (last year), Boyle (game 5) and Neil last night. There was no action against Neil, so I'm not expecting Del Zotto to be getting any phone calls.

[slotdirt]

I agree to an extent, but I also had a problem with the Torres hit last year. Nailing a guy in the open ice with one's back (which is what Neil did - sort of a Kronwall type of play) is a lot different than a shoulder to a head. Just my opinion though, and I can certainly see it both ways.

[3kings]

I thought Del Zotto's hit was clean, it isn't his fault Neil was looking behind. I also think the goal was good because there was no proof that Neil actually touched it.