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Old 04-21-2012, 12:46 AM
Rupert Pupkin Rupert Pupkin is offline
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I laughed

But don't you empty your bladder before you run, and ensure you haven't eaten a meal? Pretty much the same thing. I did 2 miles today, and I'll bet I lost half a percent in dehydration (sweating).

If a horse loses 1% of it's body weight to sweating/lasix, that's 4.5 kg, that's replaceable by a few buckets of water back in the barn over the few hours post-race.



That's the first time I've ever heard that as a reason
How could you say that is the same thing? Having a full bladder has nothing to do with being hydrated. A person is no more dehydrated after taking a whiz than before taking a whiz. Lasix dehydrates you by making your fluids go into your bladder. The fluid leaving the bladder is not the part that dehydrates you.

Hey Cmorioles. Don't take a whiz before you go running. It will dehydrate you. LOL. Riot must think we are really stupid.
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Old 04-21-2012, 12:53 AM
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How could you say that is the same thing?
The small dose of lasix given race horses barely dehydrates them.

I was trying to point out - very clumsily, it appears - a weight comparison type of thing of urine to volume - empty stomach and full bladder = 2 pounds in a big man. Replacing the water lost in one small dose of lasix in a race horse is a couple of buckets of water.

Horses still sweat with lasix. That means there's plenty of water there for cooling.

No bet on More Joyous, went off at only 7/5. What a terrific mare
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Old 04-21-2012, 12:58 AM
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The small dose of lasix given race horses barely dehydrates them.

I was trying to point out - very clumsily, it appears - a weight comparison type of thing of urine to volume - empty stomach and full bladder = 2 pounds in a big man.

Horses still sweat with lasix. That means there's plenty of water there for cooling.

No bet on More Joyous, went off at only 7/5. What a terrific mare
If the FLAIR strips really do work just as well (or practically as well), then why would it be so bad to ban lasix? Everyone could just use the FLAIR strips instead.
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