Kentucky's ongoing attempt to end racing in state proceeds..

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

What the public doesnt understand is that most horses have similar issues that are treated close to the same way. Sure a valuable horse may get to have expensive therapies in conjunction with a medicine regimine that a cheaper, less valauble horse doesnt get but it isnt that different than people who have bad backs. The treatments are pretty similar.

From news reports, the regulators seem to claim that they make an effort to notify horsemen of changes in testing standards. I don't know how strong an effort is made or whether or not a horseman can reasonably be expected to juggle all the rules, changes, withdrawals, etc., especially if he's operating in more than one jurisdiction.

However, back to the pre-race regimens, how likely is it that these are typically "cookbooked", in the sense that every horse from the same barn gets the same treatment? Does this seem apporpriate form a "horsemanship" standpoint? Furthermore, what is the dominant thought process behind the administration of pre-race treamtents? What the horse actually needs? What the horse received when he (or a stablemate) was last successful? What the rules/withdrawal times allow? What "levels the playing field"?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

From news reports, the regulators seem to claim that they make an effort to notify horsemen of changes in testing standards. I don't know how strong an effort is made or whether or not a horseman can reasonably be expected to juggle all the rules, changes, withdrawals, etc., especially if he's operating in more than one jurisdiction.

However, back to the pre-race regimens, how likely is it that these are typically "cookbooked", in the sense that every horse from the same barn gets the same treatment? Does this seem apporpriate form a "horsemanship" standpoint? Furthermore, what is the dominant thought process behind the administration of pre-race treamtents? What the horse actually needs? What the horse received when he (or a stablemate) was last successful? What the rules/withdrawal times allow? What "levels the playing field"?

They dont tell us squat for the most part. Racing labs/commissions for the most part treat horsemen as potential criminals that they are looking to get. Labs use positive tests as resume builders.

As for the other questions I'm too tired to answer properly but there is a pretty wide range of opinions (among vets and trainers) as to what should be given, when and even the effectiveness of any of it.

[Sightseek]

http://www.flairstrips.com/wp-conten...-Camp-2011.pdf

A good presentation on how the lungs work in a horse.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

http://www.flairstrips.com/wp-conten...-Camp-2011.pdf

A good presentation on how the lungs work in a horse.

What a great little reference booklet re: this subject. Thanks.

Every speed sport comes down to this:

"He whose cellular ATP lasts the longest, wins"

[Bill K]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

http://www.flairstrips.com/wp-conten...-Camp-2011.pdf

A good presentation on how the lungs work in a horse.

Thanks for the link. I read and it certainly was very informative. My one question would be if a horse only breathes through the nose, why are tongue ties used?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Bill K

Thanks for the link. I read and it certainly was very informative. My one question would be if a horse only breathes through the nose, why are tongue ties used?

To keep the horse from getting it's tongue up over the bit = out of control horse.

Some think a tongue tie helps prevent dorsal displacement of the soft palate while racing, but there's not alot of real evidence it works to do that.