dear bernardini fans....

[The Bid]

He may have ran the same time, but he didnt run the same race. He was never comfortable.

[Danzig]

i guess not, he was probably wondering what all those other horses were doing around him!
if he ran his standard race, well it just wasn't good enough yesterday. the time of the race fits in with his previous efforts. i think we saw bernies usual race, it just wasn't the same outcome.

[The Bid]

Danzig, If this races numbers come out like his previous I will be shocked. You didnt see his previous races, you saw a bounce, and a horse who disliked a surface. You also saw a very nice race by invasor, however Im putting the beyer at 104.


Revised. Tanner just posted and I pulled the PP of Bernardini. How can that number 115 be correct?

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Danzig, If this races numbers come out like his previous I will be shocked. You didnt see his previous races, you saw a bounce, and a horse who disliked a surface. You also saw a very nice race by invasor, however Im putting the beyer at 104.


Revised. Tanner just posted and I pulled the PP of Bernardini. How can that number 115 be correct?

How can it be correct? Please refer to the many previous posts by myself and others regarding the way races are run and the effect of competition.
Bottom line is he did take to the track, he ran his race, an extraordinary race, and just lost to another very good horse. The only people puzzled by this or scratching their heads are the ones who annointed him before he was fully proven out. Anyone could see he was an exceptionally talented horse but some of us wanted to wait and see what happened when he ran against the best before assuming he was the greatest thing we've ever seen.

[The Bid]

Jim, its not right, 108 for invasor 107 for Dini

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Jim, its not right, 108 for invasor 107 for Dini

Okay, but same thinking still applies despite the lower numbers for the entire field. The times and track condition were nothing if not unusual yesterday.

[2MinsToPost]

Does anybody think that; hypothetically speaking, the accident had not occured in Race 8 that maybe the outcome would have been different? Was Javier's head on right, 100%?

[The Bid]

You realize they went over the track before the Distaff, right? I heard they scraped the top down, that would change the variant, and condition. Jim, I still do not think he handled the surface, among other things. I think he was in deep, due to bounce, but I didnt see a comfortable horse half way up the backside. Im not really even a huge fan of Dini, Im just being realistic with his excuses.

Undoubtedly Javy asked for his all out run a little too soon. I dont think it would have mattered, he wasnt the same. I think Invasor still passes, even if timed PERFECT.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Danzig, If this races numbers come out like his previous I will be shocked. You didnt see his previous races, you saw a bounce, and a horse who disliked a surface. You also saw a very nice race by invasor, however Im putting the beyer at 104.


Revised. Tanner just posted and I pulled the PP of Bernardini. How can that number 115 be correct?

no, i saw none of that. i didn't think he looked uncomfortable, esp when he made his move around the turn. uncomfortable horses that bounce and dislike the surface don't finish second in the bcc! he ran his race, but the comp he faced previously was nothing like yesterdays. tried and true veterans, bern the most lightly raced of the bunch.


i'd love to see him try again next year, unlike flower alley and others like him, i think bernie would be better than ever!!!!--along the lines of alysheba, hoty at four after losing the classic to ferdinand.
i'd like to see the top three from yesterday come back, but what are the odds of that happening??