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11-05-2006, 08:36 AM
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2) i don't understand the maurlakana thing. 3) was my post a bit extreme? yes. normally i would never criticize a horse for running second in the bcc. it is certainly quite an accomplishment. let me say it again.......bernardini is a good horse. the reason i felt so strongly about it......and the reason for such an extreme post on my part......was because i felt it was called for because of the piles of idiotically stupid junk we have been reading on here for months about this horse. they made it seem like he couldn't possibly finish second. 4) i have respect for you, regardless of what you may think of me. you were certainly in the bern camp, but you were not one of the more extreme ones. if you feel that calling me names such as "clown" is the best way to go.....fine.
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11-05-2006, 08:57 AM
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Good horses lose races, he lost a race to a very very nice horse. A horse whos only lost one race, and that race being to the best horse running on the planet. He lost to an older horse, he lost to a proven horse, he lost to a fresh horse? He didnt pack it in, he didnt get over that track well, he wasnt the same horse that ran previous weeks. Hes probably at the end of his rope and he still dug in and gave a champions effort. Bernardini fans have nothing to be ashamed of, nor does the horse, or his connections. He tried and just got beat by a fresher horse.
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11-05-2006, 09:08 AM
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AVance,
I am a fellow Bern-doubter (although I went with David Junior  ) I completely agree with the SENTIMENT of your post. The Bernardini-hype around here was pretty bad. People like me (and especially you) were almost completely drowned out by the praise this horse received. That being said, you probably would have been better served by not retaliating with an angry rant. Those that said he could not lose, I assume they already know they were wrong at this point. Why not let it go and let them congratulate you on being so right about Invasor? Fighting "idiotically stupid junk" with class is always better than fighting it with an angry "I-told-you-so" rant. By the way, congrats on picking the winner in a very tough race.
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11-05-2006, 09:20 AM
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I have to be honest, I was rooting against him after I found out they were planning to retire him after the BC. As sports fans we're always looking for the next great one. He's simply not one of the greats. It was a fine performance and he's one of the greats this year but not an all-timer. That was proven yesterday.
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11-05-2006, 09:20 AM
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The outcome wasn't the same as in previous weeks due mainly I believe to this being a full field of much more accomplished runners than he has faced in the past. You may not want to believe it but this is a big determining factor in the outcome. It was a learning experience for him. He never faced the type of adversity that he faced yesterday, thats all. He did so quite admirably. It seems that many just don't pay attention to the way races are run.
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11-05-2006, 09:27 AM
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To be honest after watching him through the onset of the race I thought he was getting nothing, he gamed his way over a surface he didnt care for. If you watch the race again you can see Javier asking him to pick it up about half way down the back stretch. He either didnt like the going, or he was just flat. Either way that wasnt the same horse that trounced foes in his previous starts. Invasor is a nice horse, a very nice horse, but I think Bernardini is as advertised. I would love to see him come back for a 4 year old season. In my opinion he was up against it today, he was due to bounce, the field was full of talent, he was out of his element, and he was up against older. You combine that with what I saw as a general dislike for the surface and he ran pretty damn good.
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11-05-2006, 09:31 AM
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he actually ran the same time as he did in the gold cup. difference was that the horses yesterday could hang with him, unlike those in his previous starts.
but i couldn't believe it when i saw the last half took them over 51 seconds to cover. that's pretty bad.
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11-05-2006, 09:35 AM
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i guess not, he was probably wondering what all those other horses were doing around him!
if he ran his standard race, well it just wasn't good enough yesterday. the time of the race fits in with his previous efforts. i think we saw bernies usual race, it just wasn't the same outcome.
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11-05-2006, 11:55 AM
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You're right though, I was out of line and am sorry for spazzing on you.
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11-05-2006, 12:57 PM
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turns out they was wrong...
he's not all that & and bag of funyuns Barbaro would have ended up being the better horse I think he could have handled Invasor but we know for sure about Bernardini, LMAO!!!
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11-05-2006, 04:01 PM
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Through all this I was reminded of 1989, when Easy Goer was winning all those races in New York with the same sort of ease that Bernardini had this summer. After the Belmont, he won the Whitney, the Travers, the Woodward and the JCG Cup, which is a bigger and better list than Bernadini racked up. Tom Durkin proclaimed him New York's Horse of the Year. The East Coasters could NOT believe that their darling could be beaten again by that scrawny black thing from California, which had been run down in CA by Prized in a G1 at 10f since. Surprise, surprise, Sunday Silence beat Easy Goer again and Prized displayed his quality by winning the Turf over elders in his first turf outing.
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11-05-2006, 11:33 PM
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