2012 Triple Crown Trail: 11 try to deny I'll Have Another

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by asudevil

Didn't he bear out sharply in the stretch?

Yes.

He should be freshened for the summer. He's already run in four Graded Stakes routes since the Breeders Cup.

If Baffert does run him in the Derby -- he had better change his running style. He's going to run mid-pack at absolute best if the goal is to take him as wide as possible and stalk from up close.

[asudevil]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Yes.

He should be freshened for the summer. He's already run in four Graded Stakes routes since the Breeders Cup.

If Baffert does run him in the Derby -- he had better change his running style. He's going to run mid-pack at absolute best if the goal is to take him as wide as possible and stalk from up close.

The question is can he change his running style in 3 weeks? They will have 2 works at best? Doesn't "bearing out" indicate exhaustion or some sort of physical issue?

I totally agree with the summer freshening idea. Same old story...why ruin a nice horse? (see Trinniberg connections)

[Calzone Lord]

It will be interesting to see what Borel tries to do with Take Charge Indy.

Even though he went wire-to-wire in the Fla Derby last time out, I wouldn't be surprised if he attempts to take him way back.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

It will be interesting to see what Borel tries to do with Take Charge Indy.

Even though he went wire-to-wire in the Fla Derby last time out, I wouldn't be surprised if he attempts to take him way back.

I have no doubt he will be running late. Hes going back. Coming into the Derby this is clearly Borels best shot since Street Sense.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by asudevil

The question is can he change his running style in 3 weeks? They will have 2 works at best? Doesn't "bearing out" indicate exhaustion or some sort of physical issue?

I totally agree with the summer freshening idea. Same old story...why ruin a nice horse? (see Trinniberg connections)

Secret Circle has been one of my favorite horses since his debut at Del Mar. Baffert has been my favorite forever.... Secret Circle needs a break and a cutback. Why not the Met?

[RolloTomasi]

Secret Circle has bore out in 4 of his last 5 starts.

[Sightseek]

As a fan, it's hard not to hope that a Secret Circle, Creative Cause, or Hansen wins the Derby rather than a Gemologist or Went the Day Well.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

As a fan, it's hard not to hope that a Secret Circle, Creative Cause, or Hansen wins the Derby rather than a Gemologist or Went the Day Well.

I don't get it.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I don't get it.

Their campaigns closer resemble something we would have seen a few years ago, not the new trend of "fresh horse," two-prep campaign.

Creative Cause -- 5 starts as a 2 year old, 3 stakes start preps

Secret Circle -- 3 / 4

Hansen -- 3 / 3

I wasn't speaking in terms of relative talent.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

As a fan, it's hard not to hope that a Secret Circle, Creative Cause, or Hansen wins the Derby rather than a Gemologist or Went the Day Well.

Who cares about that stuff?

I want to know what your derby hat ratings are for the derby hat thread in Esoteric that Calzone started.

[Kasept]

Darren Rogers tweets that Hollendorfer reports Rousing Sermon only possible for Derby with decision coming by end of week..

Would move Reveron into body of field..