dear bernardini fans....

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

This from a moderator? Come on man. Surely you are better than this.

Bernardini was shoved down all of our throats for months. He is a fine racehorse and one defeat certainly won't dull a a great year. But come on...as good as Secretariat?

Bernardini proved he was good but also that he was overrated. Then again, anything short of a multi length win would have proven that he was overrated considering the hype.

Good response. You're right, I should show more restraint. But the constant baiting of Bernardini fans like myself from this guy really drives me nuts.

And like I said, I never mentioned him in the same breath as Secretariat, and think the only ones who did were novices on television trying to draw more attention to the Breeders' Cup.

I still believe he's the best horse in the world, but take nothing away from Invasor, who's a truly great horse in his own right.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Good response. You're right, I should show more restraint. But the constant baiting of Bernardini fans like myself from this guy really drives me nuts.

And like I said, I never mentioned him in the same breath as Secretariat, and think the only ones who did were novices on television trying to draw more attention to the Breeders' Cup.

I still believe he's the best horse in the world, but take nothing away from Invasor, who's a truly great horse in his own right.

In all fairness, i think even the most ardent anti-bernardinians out there would agree that it looked like another effortless route when Bernardini made the turn for home. Perhaps Javy moved a little soon.

The things that we expect from racehorses these days. In my humble opinion, neither Invasor nor Bernardini have proven to be great racehorses...YET. Bernardini is racing in the withers not 6 months ago and going off at 12-1 just 3 races back! Invasor had similar odds in the Pim Special. Now off of one result, one is proven "great" and the other "overrated". Welcome to racing circa 2006.

Let me amend the "greatness" thing for Bernardini by saying he indeed was a great three year old. Beats elders in the JCGC and virtually every other three year contender with impunity. But figwise? Never had a fig race as sensational as Tiznow or Candy Ride or MDO. As an older horse i think he would be the best we have seen since at least cigar. Heres to hoping they let us see him one more year.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

In all fairness, i think even the most ardent anti-bernardinians out there would agree that it looked like another effortless route when Bernardini made the turn for home. Perhaps Javy moved a little soon.

The things that we expect from racehorses these days. In my humble opinion, neither Invasor nor Bernardini have proven to be great racehorses...YET. Bernardini is racing in the withers not 6 months ago and going off at 12-1 just 3 races back! Invasor had similar odds in the Pim Special. Now off of one result, one is proven "great" and the other "overrated". Welcome to racing circa 2006.

Let me amend the "greatness" thing for Bernardini by saying he indeed was a great three year old. Beats elders in the JCGC and virtually every other three year contender with impunity. But figwise? Never had a fig race as sensational as Tiznow or Candy Ride or MDO. As an older horse i think he would be the best we have seen since at least cigar. Heres to hoping they let us see him one more year.

I'll take issue only with the assertation that he never had a figure as sensational as Tiznow.

He actually had very similar form going into the BCC as Tiznow.. Bernie's last four BSFs going into the Classic were 117, 116, 114 and 113 while Tiz' were 119, 114, 115 and 107. Not all that far off.

I'm absolutely with you that I hope we see him one more year, especially considering Saturday's close-but-no-cigar (amazingly, no pun intended) result..

[Cajungator26]

I'm more impressed with Bernardini than I was all year based upon that second place finish...

What I DIDN'T like was the lack of heart shown by him when he was looked in the eye. I think Bernie has more natural talent BAR NONE than any horse that was in that field, but does he have the heart? I'm not convinced...