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Old 04-16-2012, 08:24 AM
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For Shanahan to be basically saying that Hagelin's accidental elbow was FAR WORSE than Carkner's pre-meditated attack on a defenseless opponent, is DEPLORABLE. Taking into consideration injury is what makes these rulings so patently biased. The actions can be the same or worse, but if they LUCKILY don't cause injury, Shanahan lets it slide?
He says Hagelin's spotless record was taken into consideration? What does he get if he's a repeat offender, 15 games?So the Rangers dress John Scott tonight, send him after Spezza, and hope one of Ottawas better players jumps in so both can be thrown out, just like what happened Saturday? Carkner, when he dresses, which is infrequently, might play 6 minutes. That one game suspension really hurts the Senators.
Seth, I thought the exact same thing. I could understand sitting him for one game. Three games is insane.


Here are the two hits, one guys doesn't even get a hearing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2py9pRx7l14


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE5Nz2efcW8
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Seth, I thought the exact same thing. I could understand sitting him for one game. Three games is insane.


Here are the two hits, one guys doesn't even get a hearing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2py9pRx7l14


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE5Nz2efcW8
might want to factor in Hagelin hit daniel alfredsson, arguably the sens best player, and it was a clear head shot

carkner, drops boyle....... a 3rd line guy

i think james neal should be getting a call as well, just my two cents on that though

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Old 04-16-2012, 11:15 AM
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might want to factor in Hagelin hit daniel alfredsson, arguably the sens best player, and it was a clear head shot

carkner, drops boyle....... a 3rd line guy

i think james neal should be getting a call as well, just my two cents on that though

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Listened to Shannahan this morning and the fact that there was an injury was a major factor in his decision. The biggest issues I have is that he says the Phillps hit and the Haglin hit aren't comperable to each other. Obviously I think that is garbage. And Hags only got 3 games because it was his first offense. So if he had a past with the home office, was he looking at like 5 games?

For the record, they are saying thatAlfreddsson did suffer a concusion, but he is a game time decision tonight.

As far as Carkner goes, he's a 6th defenseman that wasn't going to see a lot of time, going after a Rangers player that does log a lot of time. I would think that Carkner also has some sort of past issues with the league office. So I'm not sure how he only gets 1 game for a pre meditated attack.

I think Sergei Bobrovsky might be the only player that is safe not to get a call from the league in that series.
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Old 04-16-2012, 12:31 PM
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The Penguins were downright disgraceful yesterday. And I was a little embarrassed for Sidney after hearing his comments after the game. The guy's won a Hart, a Cup, and has worn the "C" since he was 21. Act like you've been there before. Could you imagine Lidstrom or Lemieux or Yzerman or Messier or Gretzky or <insert captain here> pulling some of that nonsense that he pulls on a nightly basis? And the Penguins tolerate it - that's the most disappointing part.
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Old 04-16-2012, 12:40 PM
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mario used to be a voice against shenanigans like yesterday. i guess that's no longer the case. of course, as long as he kept cook on the roster, it was pretty evident he didn't walk the walk while talking the talk. i haven't gone and watched the infamous evander kane knockout of that bozo in a while; i guess it's time!

and malkin yesterday...kept his hands to himself until someone else grabbed a flyer to keep the guy off him, so then he decides to give a shove. they've completely lost all composure, jsut like in the game that caused the glass jaw incident i cited above.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ype03NPym2o


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Old 04-16-2012, 12:42 PM
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mario used to be a voice against shenanigans like yesterday. i guess that's no longer the case. of course, as long as he kept cook on the roster, it was pretty evident he didn't walk the walk while talking the talk. i haven't gone and watched the infamous evander kane knockout of that bozo in a while; i guess it's time!

and malkin yesterday...kept his hands to himself until someone else grabbed a flyer to keep the guy off him, so then he decides to give a shove. they've completely lost all composure, jsut like in the game that caused the glass jaw incident i cited above.
Oh, you mean he's on the playoff roster?
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Oh, you mean he's on the playoff roster?



that's why neal went after couterier imo, he's been shutting geno and sid down.
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The Penguins were downright disgraceful yesterday. And I was a little embarrassed for Sidney after hearing his comments after the game. The guy's won a Hart, a Cup, and has worn the "C" since he was 21. Act like you've been there before. Could you imagine Lidstrom or Lemieux or Yzerman or Messier or Gretzky or <insert captain here> pulling some of that nonsense that he pulls on a nightly basis? And the Penguins tolerate it - that's the most disappointing part.
This is the reason "C" shouldn't just go to your superstar player. Crosby is no captain and either is Ovechkin for that matter. Orpik should be the Penguin captain and the gutless Caps of the last five years should just go captainless.
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This is the reason "C" shouldn't just go to your superstar player. Crosby is no captain and either is Ovechkin for that matter. Orpik should be the Penguin captain and the gutless Caps of the last five years should just go captainless.
i agree with you on the first part.....not so much on the 2nd part

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This is the reason "C" shouldn't just go to your superstar player. Crosby is no captain and either is Ovechkin for that matter. Orpik should be the Penguin captain and the gutless Caps of the last five years should just go captainless.
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Great in the regular season, bomb in the post season annually. Before this year they had won 4 division titles in a row assuring a high seed and they have won 2 playoff series total. They are talented but can't even get to the conference finals which to me is lack of leadership and guts.
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This is the reason "C" shouldn't just go to your superstar player. Crosby is no captain and either is Ovechkin for that matter. Orpik should be the Penguin captain and the gutless Caps of the last five years should just go captainless.


Crosby is too a captain. Of the sore losers leaguewide.

Caps are headed in the same direction as USA's economy did post 9/11. Down the tubes. Its a shame, i was starting to like that little rivalry we had with them when they were an actual threat.
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