dear bernardini fans....

[avance2000]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

losing to Invasor is hardly a disgrace as that horse has proven himself this year to be a fine animal.
Bernardini hardly embarrased himself from there. What we saw today were two horses running very well and putting on an exciting show...the kind we see all two infrequently.
Ya know, actually not being as good as Secretariat is hardly a knock.

i agree 100% with these points, especially the point about secretariat. in fact that is my point. why couldn't they just say....bernardini is a good horse. why did the have to start comparing him to the best ever?
i am not not saying bernardini disgraced himself today. he is a good horse. nobody could deny that. i am saying that the people who have been drooling over the horse ever sense the preakness have disgraced themselves. we had to listen about how great he was for so long.....that they need to hear about how wrong they were. they probably already know it now......but they need to hear it over and over and over.......just like we did.

[blackthroatedwind]

No doubt. Bernardini was spoken of in a manner that his actual mperformances belied. I guess people WANT to see really good horses and are too quick to annoint them these days.....especially since they hardly hang around long enough to find out just how good they really are. I guess Smarty Jones is lucky to have avoided that embarrassment .

This is a very unfortunate side to early retirements and the BC reducing the number of difficult matchups. We just don't get enough chances to see how really good the top horses actually are. One thing about horse racing....NO career was or should ever be made in one day or one race.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Well,when people were telling others that hoped they played against the horse(so they could make even more,)I thought it was unjustified.Anytime you change tracks,and /or a horse's level of competition,that horse can fail.We also were seeing an increase in field size that could get some horses out of their comfort zone.There are just a lot of things that make the chances of failure more likely,and if they exist on raceday,then your chances of getting beat go up.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Well,when people were telling others that hoped they played against the horse(so they could make even more,)I thought it was unjustified.Anytime you change tracks,and /or a horse's level of competition,that horse can fail.We also were seeing an increase in field size that could get some horses out of their comfort zone.There are just a lot of things that make the chances of failure more likely,and if they exist on raceday,then your chances of getting beat go up.

Exactly. It would take a super horse to justify 1.1-1 odds against that field. (I wasn't overly impressed with the field, but it still would require a hugely dominant fav to be 1.1-1.) Bernardini had not shown enough to justify those odds.

I tried to explain that to Pillow Pants, but he only encouraged me to bet more against Bernardini. ;>)

--Dunbar

[Dunbar]

As far as the excuses for Bernardini, too bad the dini-fans here can't be as gracious as Albertrani was after the race. He simply said that Invasor was a better horse yesterday.

--Dunbar

[Bernardini]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

As far as the excuses for Bernardini, too bad the dini-fans here can't be as gracious as Albertrani was after the race. He simply said that Invasor was a better horse yesterday.

--Dunbar

Im a huge dini fan, but no excuses, none!!! bad ride, bad post none of that.. he just got beat by a better horse

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

As far as the excuses for Bernardini, too bad the dini-fans here can't be as gracious as Albertrani was after the race. He simply said that Invasor was a better horse yesterday.

--Dunbar

The only people I see being ungracious are those who start threads like this trying to taunt Bernardini fans (cause now he's a nag). On the other hand, I haven't seen one post from a Bernardini supporter that has not given credit to Invasor......

[Bernardini]

Originally Posted by Betsy

The only people I see being ungracious are those who start threads like this trying to taunt Bernardini fans (cause now he's a nag). On the other hand, I haven't seen one post from a Bernardini supporter that has not given credit to Invasor......

Invasor, hes the best!! Happy?? lol

all joking aside, kudos Invasor, down the stretch I was shouting go dini, go dini, no invasor, no invasor !!! Bleep, bleep, bleep, how the hell did this happen?? some more bleeps !!!

and that’s why I love horse racing !!!

[avance2000]

Originally Posted by Betsy

The only people I see being ungracious are those who start threads like this trying to taunt Bernardini fans (cause now he's a nag). On the other hand, I haven't seen one post from a Bernardini supporter that has not given credit to Invasor......

i never said he was a nag. in fact i believe i described him as a "good horse" a few times throughout the thread. this thread is not about him being a bad horse, it is about him not being the horse that some overexcited bozos on this board had been telling us he was for months. if someone had the nerve to question this horse.....the bernmafia was all over them.....for months.
after he won one of his races over a small low-class field one of them started a thread entitled "barbaro who?" people compared him to secretariat. if you think this thread is "ungracious" well......good. those of us who correctly questioned this horse were not treated very graciously for the last 5 months. it seems the bernmafia is good at dishing it out....but has a little trouble taking it.

Originally Posted by avance2000

i never said he was a nag. in fact i believe i described him as a "good horse" a few times throughout the thread. this thread is not about him being a bad horse, it is about him not being the horse that some overexcited bozos on this board had been telling us he was for months. if someone had the nerve to question this horse.....the bernmafia was all over them.....for months.
after he won one of his races over a small low-class field one of them started a thread entitled "barbaro who?" people compared him to secretariat. if you think this thread is "ungracious" well......good. those of us who correctly questioned this horse were not treated very graciously for the last 5 months. it seems the bernmafia is good at dishing it out....but has a little trouble taking it.

YOU mean the Bernmafia who were creating a ridiculous comparison that was nowhere near reality and should be feeling as stupid as stupid gets right now?
"He wants a target"
"He could go much faster, he was only under a handride"
"Hes gonna set the track record"

Blah, Glad thats over with.

Great horse, but not one tenth of what he was hyped to be, and now the Bernmafia can choke on it. I don't hear their big mouths now.

[LARHAGE]

Originally Posted by avance2000

i agree 100% with these points, especially the point about secretariat. in fact that is my point. why couldn't they just say....bernardini is a good horse. why did the have to start comparing him to the best ever?
i am not not saying bernardini disgraced himself today. he is a good horse. nobody could deny that. i am saying that the people who have been drooling over the horse ever sense the preakness have disgraced themselves. we had to listen about how great he was for so long.....that they need to hear about how wrong they were. they probably already know it now......but they need to hear it over and over and over.......just like we did.

I have news for you, since the beginning of time the whole premise of horseracing was the opinion that ones horse was faster than another, and as someone who actually was a fan during the Scretariat, Seattle Slew and Affirmed eras there were fans like you, saying that people were crazy to be excited about a Bold Ruler running a distance, a crooked legged cheap horse winning the Crown etc... It's simple human nature to knock success, we don't know what the future holds for Bernardini, who's to say if he races next year that he doesn't fullfill the expectations of many, at the comparable stages of their careers Bernardini has been far more impressive than say Forego, who I would think no one could argue with his greatness, no?