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Old 04-10-2012, 10:57 PM
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Brilliance? Turf?

Sarcasm?
Respectfully, kind Sir, are you being sarcastic?

Didn't she win or place in G1s in South Africa, England, Hong Kong and here (not to mention running in Dubai)?

She never ran away from competition, she ran toward it.

Put me on the list of those who think she was brilliant.

How many G1 winners were in this field?

http://www.hkjc.com/english/racing/r...2006&raceno=08

1 13 IRRIDESCENCE (G630) W C Marwing M F de Kock 122 956 6 - 2.02.00 5.8
2 3 BEST GIFT (D296) E Saint-Martin J Moore 126 1145 10 HD 2.02.00 12
3 12 OUIJA BOARD (G615) L Dettori E A L Dunlop 122 1007 8 HD 2.02.00 2.6
4 4 SUPER KID (C305) S Dye J Moore 126 1195 2 1-3/4 2.02.20 15
5 6 BULLISH LUCK (C155) B Prebble A S Cruz 126 1236 5 3-1/4 2.02.50 18
6 10 VIVA PATACA (G096) G Mosse J Moore 126 1108 12 4-1/2 2.02.70 3.5
7 5 BOWMAN'S CROSSING (B138) D Dunn C Fownes 126 1164 3 5-3/4 2.02.90 25
8 8 GREEN TREASURE (D225) Y T Cheng D Cruz 126 1144 4 6 2.02.90 47
9 2 RUSSIAN PEARL (E019) F Coetzee A S Cruz 126 1014 13 7-1/4 2.03.10 25
10 11 RIVER DANCER (C109) G Schofield J Size 126 1016 7 7-1/4 2.03.10 62
11 7 FALSTAFF (G627) D Whyte M F de Kock 126 978 11 13-1/4 2.04.10 51
12 9 LAVEROCK (G628) M Blancpain Laffon-Parias 126 1066 1 14-3/4 2.04.30 61
13 1 NORSE DANCER (G614)
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Old 04-11-2012, 04:50 PM
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Respectfully, kind Sir, are you being sarcastic?

Didn't she win or place in G1s in South Africa, England, Hong Kong and here (not to mention running in Dubai)?

She never ran away from competition, she ran toward it.

Put me on the list of those who think she was brilliant.

How many G1 winners were in this field?

http://www.hkjc.com/english/racing/r...2006&raceno=08

1 13 IRRIDESCENCE (G630) W C Marwing M F de Kock 122 956 6 - 2.02.00 5.8
2 3 BEST GIFT (D296) E Saint-Martin J Moore 126 1145 10 HD 2.02.00 12
3 12 OUIJA BOARD (G615) L Dettori E A L Dunlop 122 1007 8 HD 2.02.00 2.6
4 4 SUPER KID (C305) S Dye J Moore 126 1195 2 1-3/4 2.02.20 15
5 6 BULLISH LUCK (C155) B Prebble A S Cruz 126 1236 5 3-1/4 2.02.50 18
6 10 VIVA PATACA (G096) G Mosse J Moore 126 1108 12 4-1/2 2.02.70 3.5
7 5 BOWMAN'S CROSSING (B138) D Dunn C Fownes 126 1164 3 5-3/4 2.02.90 25
8 8 GREEN TREASURE (D225) Y T Cheng D Cruz 126 1144 4 6 2.02.90 47
9 2 RUSSIAN PEARL (E019) F Coetzee A S Cruz 126 1014 13 7-1/4 2.03.10 25
10 11 RIVER DANCER (C109) G Schofield J Size 126 1016 7 7-1/4 2.03.10 62
11 7 FALSTAFF (G627) D Whyte M F de Kock 126 978 11 13-1/4 2.04.10 51
12 9 LAVEROCK (G628) M Blancpain Laffon-Parias 126 1066 1 14-3/4 2.04.30 61
13 1 NORSE DANCER (G614)
No, not at all. Brilliance used to mean something different than it seems to now.
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Old 04-11-2012, 06:17 PM
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No, not at all. Brilliance used to mean something different than it seems to now.
My frame of reference goes as far back as 2004 so yeah to me she is but I'd understand if to some of the old timers she isn't quite Man O' War.
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Old 04-11-2012, 06:21 PM
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My frame of reference goes as far back as 2004 so yeah to me she is but I'd understand if to some of the old timers she isn't quite Man O' War.
Brilliant means extremely fast, speedy, and precocious.

Most horses who get slapped with the brilliant label can't rate -- a horse like Discreet Cat would be an exception.

Turf horses are rarely associated with the world brilliant.
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Old 04-11-2012, 06:34 PM
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Turf horses are rarely associated with the world brilliant.
Well yeah but 1. I never realized there was a prerequisite involved and 2. most people don't discuss Subway and anal in the same post but you do so there ya go.
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Old 04-11-2012, 06:41 PM
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Lure would be the closest thing to a Grade 1 caliber turf horse anyone would call brilliant.

I don't talk about anal -- but Subway has a 'buy one six inch get one free' special until 9AM everyday.

Get the steak -- provalone, jelapano, green peppers, and chipolte toasted on it. Add letuce, olives, and parm after it comes out and you have a masterpiece from a place who makes avg at best quality subs served by 17-to-20 year-old chicks.
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Old 04-11-2012, 07:00 PM
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Lure would be the closest thing to a Grade 1 caliber turf horse anyone would call brilliant.
Barbaro perhaps.

I'd have loved to have seen Lady's Secret try turf.
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Old 04-11-2012, 06:56 PM
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Well yeah but 1. I never realized there was a prerequisite involved and 2. most people don't discuss Subway and anal in the same post but you do so there ya go.
So, when a stallion is given a Chef de Race rating of Brilliant (for example), you thought that meant turf?

What's the point of using words if you use them in a way that is different than what they mean in the first place? I mean, besides playing around that is, puns, etc...
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