BC: Familiar Storylines Highlight, Mar Cup

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Just a pathetic bias today,Steve.The day is too important to all involved to simply turn the page.It is not cheap to ship horses in there,and I guarantee you that many had no chance whatsoever to compete on that track.None.

[GPK]

EC was as game as they come racing 3-4 wide for 1.5 miles...losing to 2 horses that saved all the ground for most of the race.

Was that that same Ramon D. on Better Talk Now that gave a MISERABLE ride on ROB ROY in the Mile????

Rob Roy should have been no WORSE than 2nd in that race....unreal

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Just a pathetic bias today,Steve.The day is too important to all involved to simply turn the page.It is not cheap to ship horses in there,and I guarantee you that many had no chance whatsoever to compete on that track.None.

And what could be done differently to make the venue fair? It happens. Did the Churchill officials try to create a bias in the stretch on the rail...? I just see this as a part of the game.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by pgardn

And what could be done differently to make the venue fair? It happens. Did the Churchill officials try to create a bias in the stretch on the rail...? I just see this as a part of the game.

It is just "a part of the game" on a Wednesday with 20k claimers.Not on B.C. DAY that people work hard to get a chance to go to.Look...Bordonaro and H HUGHES have combined to finish 1st or 2nd in 19 out of 21 races.Then suddenly neither can really threaten to come top 2,and a horse who has never been worse than 2nd is in trouble 3 strides out of the gate("can't handle track.") Don't forget (before you just brush this off like it's nothing) that Bordonaro's people paid good money to get into this,and they get a track that even the ultraconsistent Henny Hughes can't beat anybody on.I don't think this track was a "little off." What can be done? First figure out wtf happened in the 1st place.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

It is just "a part of the game" on a Wednesday with 20k claimers.Not on B.C. DAY that people work hard to get a chance to go to.Look...Bordonaro and H HUGHES have combined to finish 1st or 2nd in 19 out of 21 races.Then suddenly neither can really threaten to come top 2,and a horse who has never been worse than 2nd is in trouble 3 strides out of the gate("can't handle track.") Don't forget (before you just brush this off like it's nothing) that Bordonaro's people paid good money to get into this,and they get a track that even the ultraconsistent Henny Hughes can't beat anybody on.I don't think this track was a "little off." What can be done? First figure out wtf happened in the 1st place.

They want the times and the hype and all of that. Look, at least it wasnt as bad as gulfstream 99 when rat thief took it home with the bias.

But i agree...the track today was a disgrace.

[Danzig]

after reading lately about poly, days like this are supposedly one of the things it rids us of.
this has nothing to do with me advocating poly(far from sold on it) but i did read that rain has an inluence, that recent rains and a drying track can produce a bias just like the one we say yesterday. i'm sure it's a combination of factors that gave us that track....

[Danzig]

The races were run over a main track that will undoubtedly receive ample criticism in upcoming days, and not only for the injuries suffered by Pine Island and Fleet Indian in the Distaff. The rail was clearly the place to be for most of the day, and affected the races to such a degree that the first four Breeders' Cup races on the dirt were won by horses who stayed on the rail the whole way.

It could even be argued that the early results affected the pace of the Classic. Brother Derek, starting from the rail, set off at a hot pace, with Lawyer Ron and Lava Man in close pursuit. Invasor and Bernardini came around horses, making an impact through a final half-mile that was run in more than 51 seconds.
--that's from an article on drf this morning.

[Cannon Shell]

The track on Sat was the same as it was on friday. The inside was good but otherwise pretty even. Closers won, speed horses won. It was not overly fast and had plenty of moisture in it. I cant see where the problem lies? Do you honestly think that CD said screw the speed bias, lets make the rail golden? Thors echo was 3 wide around the turn, Dreaming of Anna was the favorite and on the lead, round Pond got a great trip behind a speed duel and is arguably as good as any other filly on her best day, Invasor was at least 3 or 4 wide, Bernadini made his move from the outside, Circular Quay ran a good second despite being hung wide, Asi Sempre, Happy ticket and Balletto were all wide and ran well. As for the jocks comments, What are they supposed to say? I rode bad or the horse sucked or the trainer did a bad job??? Blame the track, it wont answer back or take you off future mounts. Maybe if some of the horses actually trained over the track a bit they would have handled it better?