"Fair Share"

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Danzig

no, it won't any time soon. and the longer it's ignored, the worse the eventual fix will be. but current pols won't have to worry about that in the future, they're just worried about their seats now.

You speak the truth. Let's just not consider that behavior to be anything close to "leadership".

[joeydb]

There are more socialists preferring a "progressive" tax code then I thought.

I guess it is easier to support the tax code when it is somebody else's money.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by joeydb

There are more socialists preferring a "progressive" tax code then I thought.

I guess it is easier to support the tax code when it is somebody else's money.

lol
now i'm a socialist!

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Danzig

lol
now i'm a socialist!

I was jesting a little bit...

I am surprised though - I always found the progressivity of the rate to be intellectually indefensible.

Nothing will be closer to fair than a proportional, single rate.

Some of those who disagree with that statement will complain about how much the rich "have left after paying taxes", and THAT motive would be socialistic. The minute it goes to "But the rich can AFFORD to pay more" - that's a symptom of a socialistic mindset.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by joeydb

I was jesting a little bit...

I am surprised though - I always found the progressivity of the rate to be intellectually indefensible.

Nothing will be closer to fair than a proportional, single rate.

Some of those who disagree with that statement will complain about how much the rich "have left after paying taxes", and THAT motive would be socialistic. The minute it goes to "But the rich can AFFORD to pay more" - that's a symptom of a socialistic mindset.

i think the issue with the current system is all the loopholes. they need to reform the tax code, with more tax breaks to people who do actually create more jobs, who invest in new business. that type of stuff should be rewarded, rather than having some of the tax shelters that currently exist.

[Riot]

Socialism:

1 any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

2 a system of society or group living in which there is no private property

3 a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Riot

Socialism:

1 any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

2 a system of society or group living in which there is no private property

3 a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

Riot, I can accept those definitions for the end-state of imposed socialism.

But it follows that policies that move us in that direction can be called "socialistic". Think "slippery slope"...