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Old 03-28-2012, 11:50 AM
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Steve, I don't know that it is any sort of bellwether, but most eventual two turn horses break their maidens around one turn. My point was - it seems to me that the earlier in their careers they enjoy success the less likely they are to participate at the same level as older horses.

Perhaps it is such a small sample at that particular point in the year that they happen to stand out simply because better horses are still developing, or that they will have peaked in their ability when the later developing horses are just hitting their stride.

I don't know, just an observation. I love 2yo racing, particularly at the Spa - I was debunking the quote that they need to do away with 2yo racing as it should be crystal clear that there is a precocious segment of the foal population each year that relishes running early. And as such, they just to seem to be able to hang with the later developing crowd as they get on in their careers, with few exceptions.
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Old 03-28-2012, 12:08 PM
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Steve, I don't know that it is any sort of bellwether, but most eventual two turn horses break their maidens around one turn. My point was - it seems to me that the earlier in their careers they enjoy success the less likely they are to participate at the same level as older horses.

Perhaps it is such a small sample at that particular point in the year that they happen to stand out simply because better horses are still developing, or that they will have peaked in their ability when the later developing horses are just hitting their stride.

I don't know, just an observation. I love 2yo racing, particularly at the Spa - I was debunking the quote that they need to do away with 2yo racing as it should be crystal clear that there is a precocious segment of the foal population each year that relishes running early. And as such, they just to seem to be able to hang with the later developing crowd as they get on in their careers, with few exceptions.
I think it's just an isolated and finite parameter. Arts and Letters broke his maiden at Saratoga. He was Horse of the Year as a 3yo. Lemon Drop Kid broke his maiden at SAR. Swale broke his at Belmont in July. Damascus and Chateaugay both started their careers in October at Belmont and broke their maidens in 2nd starts there late in the month.

A random oddity.
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Alan Mann with an excellent dissection:
http://leftatthegate.blogspot.com/20...ournalism.html
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Old 03-28-2012, 01:21 PM
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Steve, I don't know that it is any sort of bellwether, but most eventual two turn horses break their maidens around one turn. My point was - it seems to me that the earlier in their careers they enjoy success the less likely they are to participate at the same level as older horses.

Perhaps it is such a small sample at that particular point in the year that they happen to stand out simply because better horses are still developing, or that they will have peaked in their ability when the later developing horses are just hitting their stride.

I don't know, just an observation. I love 2yo racing, particularly at the Spa - I was debunking the quote that they need to do away with 2yo racing as it should be crystal clear that there is a precocious segment of the foal population each year that relishes running early. And as such, they just to seem to be able to hang with the later developing crowd as they get on in their careers, with few exceptions.
The idea that a horse racing at 2 has anything to do with claimers breaking down years later is beyond stupid. Wanting to do away with 2 year old racing is akin to doing away with little league because the participants arent fully developed yet. I have no idea where this started but racing two year olds or horses in general doesnt harm them. Racing horses with injuries regardless of age does.
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