Redskins get trade raped

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

They give up three 1st-round draft picks and a 2nd round pick in order to move up four whole spots.

The Rams move back from #2 overall to #6 overall.

Considering that the Skins are in the same division as the Eagles, Giants, and Cowboys...it's a pretty safe bet those two other 1st round picks will be high ones as well.

Fisher backed himself into another great situation. He's got 3 draft picks in the top 40 this year. Two 1st rounders (both will probably be top 10 overall picks) in next years draft ... and two more 1st rounders the year after that.

Not to mention...former #1 overall pick Sam Bradford was excellent as a rookie and has only played for two years.

Rams were in great position having a franchise QB and the Number 2 pick. I am sure they received offers of 2 Ones and a 2 for the pick.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by jms62

Rams were in great position having a franchise QB and the Number 2 pick. I am sure they received offers of 2 Ones and a 2 for the pick.

The Rams are going to be freaking awesome.

Chris Long is one of the best pass rushers in the entire game. They took an excellent pash rusher in the 1st round last year in Robert Quinn.

Chris Long had 13 sacks and Quinn had 5 sacks and 3 blocked punts.

They did that despite the fact that the Rams top 4 cornerbacks were on injured reserve and the fact that the Rams had a terrible run defense and were always behind in games.

Give Chris Long and Quinn a healthy secondary, a competent offense that forces teams to have to pass and score, and a run defense that isn't brutal ... and both of these guys are easily capable of 15 to 20 sacks.

There was one point last year where Chris Long had 13 sacks and the Rams entire offensive unit had only scored 12 touchdowns.

Having great young pass rushers does no one any good when the corners can't cover, the defense can't stop the run, and the offense can't score, and teams just want to grind the clock out with runs and quick passes.

Yeah but they have field goal fisher. Good luck with the red zone with the cop stache.

[3kings]

I don't want to mush Griffin III and the Redskins but this is awfully early to do this trade. A lot can go wrong before now and the draft.

Snyder will never get it, you have to develope your draft picks and free agents in the salary cap age. Even if Griffin is great the Redskins will struggle for the next five years.

[somerfrost]

response to Manning rejection. Big gamble!

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Yeah but they have field goal fisher. Good luck with the red zone with the cop stache.

Hilarious post. So true

[dalakhani]

Maybe I am crazy but I don't think this is a bad trade IF you are convinced that RG3 is the next coming.

A somewhat washed up mediocrity like Carson Palmer commanded two first round picks. Look at what the bears traded for cutler.

I am of the opinion that QB is the most important position on the field by far and if you see "the guy" you do whatever it takes to get him. If RG3 IS what they think, it ends up a steal. If not, they should blame the talent evaluator and not the negotiator.

I think RG is the real deal.

[Calzone Lord]

RG3 is nothing more than a media cumshot right now.

Blaine Gabbert looked like a pretty good passer running the spread offense against Taco Tech in the Big 12 conference. He was supposed to be more "pro ready" than RG3.

Going into the 2010 season ... these were the only Big 12 QB's to throw for over 1k yards in the NFL...

Vince Young, Texas 6,843
Sage Rosenfels, Iowa St.4,156
Seneca Wallace, Iowa St.3,547
Chris Simms, Texas 3,117
Koy Detmer, Colorado 1,944
Josh Freeman, Kansas St.1,855

To this day, the most successful NFL QB from the Big 12 is Vince Young. Vince Young was also a Heisman winner. Not to mention a National Champion winning QB who was evaluted higher coming into the draft than RG3.

I would not trade 3 high 1st round picks and a high 2nd rounder just to move up 4 spots so I can draft the next Vince Young.

[Bigsmc]

After letting it sink in for a couple days, I think this may go down as one of the worst trades ever in the NFL.

Complete panic after Peyton said no thanks. RG III may be the next coming, but nobody knows that.

Carolina has to be laughing their asses off right now. They suffered through one horrible season and used their No 1 pick on a QB that has panned out. Redskins are risking three No 1's and a No 2 on a guy that may or may not pan out. If Newton flopped, Carolina would have had another No 1 this year and gotten one of the top two in this year's draft. If RG III flops, the Redskins are scrambling and overpaying free agents to fill the void left by the four draft picks lost.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

RG3 is nothing more than a media cumshot right now.

Blaine Gabbert looked like a pretty good passer running the spread offense against Taco Tech in the Big 12 conference. He was supposed to be more "pro ready" than RG3.

Going into the 2010 season ... these were the only Big 12 QB's to throw for over 1k yards in the NFL...



To this day, the most successful NFL QB from the Big 12 is Vince Young. Vince Young was also a Heisman winner. Not to mention a National Champion winning QB who was evaluted higher coming into the draft than RG3.

I would not trade 3 high 1st round picks and a high 2nd rounder just to move up 4 spots so I can draft the next Vince Young.

Sam Bradford would be on the list if it were through 2012

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Maybe I am crazy but I don't think this is a bad trade IF you are convinced that RG3 is the next coming.

A somewhat washed up mediocrity like Carson Palmer commanded two first round picks. Look at what the bears traded for cutler.

I am of the opinion that QB is the most important position on the field by far and if you see "the guy" you do whatever it takes to get him. If RG3 IS what they think, it ends up a steal. If not, they should blame the talent evaluator and not the negotiator.

I think RG is the real deal.

Carson Palmer wasnt traded for 2 1st round picks. He was traded for a 1st rounder and a conditional 1st rounder that is almost assuredly going to be a 2nd rounder instead (The Raiders only give the the 2nd 1st round pick if they go to the AFC Championship game next year). Plus if the Raiders do somehow make the AFC championship the pick wont be better than the 28th selection. The Redskins picks are likely to be much higher selections.

Is RG3 really that much better than other options that they can sacrifice 3 or more likely starters (on rookie contracts and under club control for years) in the coming years? Doubtful.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Carson Palmer wasnt traded for 2 1st round picks. He was traded for a 1st rounder and a conditional 1st rounder that is almost assuredly going to be a 2nd rounder instead (The Raiders only give the the 2nd 1st round pick if they go to the AFC Championship game next year). Plus if the Raiders do somehow make the AFC championship the pick wont be better than the 28th selection. The Redskins picks are likely to be much higher selections.

Is RG3 really that much better than other options that they can sacrifice 3 or more likely starters (on rookie contracts and under club control for years) in the coming years? Doubtful.

Pure insanity...plain and simple. How else do you explain it? If there is some sort of "method to the madness", it's lost on me. This kid has maybe a 25% chance of being serviceable, and about 0% chance of being some sort of Tom Brady/Farve/Fill in the blank. And you've dug a hole for at least 5-6 years because when he busts or God forbid suffers a career threatening injury (Sorry, but these things HAVE TO be discussed when making a decision like this), you've got no 1st rd. picks to rebuild for 4 years.

Ole' Danny Boy.... just when you think he can't possibly screw up a team any further, he continues to shock and awe.