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02-26-2012, 10:10 PM
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I read a few times where it it's supposed to be distance/surface on top, and quality/class on bottom.
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02-26-2012, 11:21 PM
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There's a whole lot of nonsense associated with pedigree -- and it has been exactly that way in American racing for at least 100 years...I know this because I've read several lengthy columns from 'Salvator' and Vosburgh where they would have fun mocking the theorists of the day.
There is big money in breeding horses. There is also big money in yearling sales...and few things to go on outside of looks, confirmation, and pedigree. When analyzing pedigree - there are three and a half things I study. The Sire's offspring, the Dam's racing record, the dam's produce and racing record of her produce, and the up-close tail female family (in that order) Those are the angles to study and look for preferences and clues.
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02-27-2012, 02:21 PM
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I got my quality and class from my mother.
 R.I.P. Mom. Still love you....lost her back in 1979. She was a big racing fan.
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02-27-2012, 12:19 AM
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02-27-2012, 12:26 AM
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Behind every crazy man is a mother.
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02-27-2012, 07:48 AM
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02-27-2012, 09:27 AM
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I have always thought the top sires like Storm Cat and Smart Strike provide the class, while the dam side provides surface and distance preference.
I remember JCGC day at Belmont in 2007. Smart Strike's off spring won the 3 biggest races that day. Vosbugh 6f on dirt: Fabulous Strike (Lost Code mare) Joe Hirsch 10f on turf: English Channel (Theatrical mare) Jockey Club GC 10f on Dirt: Curlin (Deputy Minister mare)
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02-27-2012, 12:21 PM
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I believe the thinking now is that terrific horses than can get a distance have larger than average hearts, and that, it's believed, is a genetic trait that is carried on the X chromosome, so male horses can only inherit the larger heart via their mothers. Ergo looking to the dam's side, rather than the sire's for distance indications.
Of course, lots of things go into whether a horse can run a distance, but a large heart is a good advantage to have, and it can only be passed via the X chromosome. I remember reading somewhere that in female horses, both X chromosomes must carry the gene for the larger heart for the filly to be born with one, so while Lady's Secret likely received the gene from her dad, her mother must also have carried it.
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02-27-2012, 12:26 PM
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But...there are a lot of sires who provide surface and distance preferences to their offspring. The "class" is provided by the horse itself. You could breed the same sire to the same dam and get one top horse, one useful horse, one ok horse, one cheap and slow horse, and one horse who can't outrun a goat. However, at all realms of ability...the offspring are likely to have leanings and preferences in regard to surface, distance, and development.
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02-27-2012, 01:43 PM
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I was just providing an example of a versatile Sire that throws high class horses but, because of their Dam side were different types of horses.
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02-27-2012, 01:50 PM
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The Dam Oatsee would be an example of the dam providing the distance.
She is the dam of Lady Joanne, winner of the 2007 Alabama, who is by a sprinty Sire in Orientate. She is also the dam of Shackleford, 2011 Preakness winner, who is by another sprinty type sire in Forestry.
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