More GOP class warfare against the poor

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

How is it freaking possible that people to this day still think there is a difference between the two parties?

Listen up! Both parties are funded by the same groups!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Riot]

I wonder if they are going to outlaw the Republican National Committee spending donor money on strip clubs in Tampa?

Naw, why change that

i have never liked the change they had made where funds are eft'd to debit-type cards.

Actually, that's a good thing for being far more easily able to control where the funds can be spent across the system. You can't purchase non-food items, alcohol, meds, etc. with your food stamp card, it just won't accept certain items with the swipes. It decreases abuse, not increases it. Makes abuse more difficult.

If those cards didn't exist, they couldn't be discussing this bill, as there wouldn't be any way to monitor it or control it. That's why you have the cottage industry of people in parking lots offering to purchase you food items for cash the first of the month.

"Welfare queens" Ruinin' it since Reagan invented them out of thin air, and in spite of the massive welfare program reforms of the 1990's <g>

[Indian Charlie]

ugh.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Actually, that's a good thing for being far more easily able to control where the funds can be spent across the system. You can't purchase non-food items, alcohol, meds, etc. with your food stamp card, it just won't accept certain items with the swipes.

From the article

Some recipients' use of their TANF benefits were called into question after media reports found the cards were being swiped at ATMs in strip clubs, liquor stores and casinos. Some recipients were also accessing their benefits out of state, including in Las Vegas casinos, at shops in Hawaii and on cruise ships, according to the reports.

So I guess it is possible...

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

From the article

Some recipients' use of their TANF benefits were called into question after media reports found the cards were being swiped at ATMs in strip clubs, liquor stores and casinos. Some recipients were also accessing their benefits out of state, including in Las Vegas casinos, at shops in Hawaii and on cruise ships, according to the reports.

So I guess it is possible...

Edited to make the post more clear:

No, those were not EBT [for SNAP, "food stamp"] cards. The EBT [SNAP, "food stamp"] cards are already well-controlled (can't even buy toilet paper or aspirin with them). But like the EBT [SNAP, "food stamp"] cards, the TANF cards can be systematically programmed to not accept those locations or types of purchases if it is a problem. That is the advantage of the cards over the old system. Easier to control abuse.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

No, those were not EBT cards. The EBT cards are already well-controlled (can't even buy toilet paper or aspirin with them). But like the EBT cards, the TANF cards can be systematically programmed to not accept those locations or types of purchases if it is a problem. That is the advantage of the cards over the old system. Easier to control abuse.

First poor people cant buy toilet paper and now they can't get lap dances? What is the world coming to?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

First poor people cant buy toilet paper and now they can't get lap dances? What is the world coming to?

No, you cannot buy toilet paper with food stamp money.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

No, you cannot buy toilet paper with food stamp money.

Where do they think the food eventually winds up?

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Riot

No, those were not EBT cards. The EBT cards are already well-controlled (can't even buy toilet paper or aspirin with them). But like the EBT cards, the TANF cards can be systematically programmed to not accept those locations or types of purchases if it is a problem. That is the advantage of the cards over the old system. Easier to control abuse.

Wrong again.

TANF "cash" is preset money that deposited on an EBT card. There is no such thing as a TANF card. You use your EBT card in an ATM to get TANF cash.

But I'm sure you researched that before you stated it as fact. Like always.

http://www.mejp.org/ebt.htm

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Wrong again.

TANF "cash" is preset money that deposited on an EBT card. There is no such thing as a TANF card. You use your EBT card in an ATM to get TANF cash.

But I'm sure you researched that before you stated it as fact. Like always.

http://www.mejp.org/ebt.htm

There are different programs, the one I was talking about with their EBT cards is SNAP, the national/state "food stamp" only-program; different from the TANF program which pays for rent, heating/cooling, etc.

The Food Stamp EBT cards do not allow purchase of non-food items like toilet paper, aspirin, shampoo, soap, liquor, cigarettes, etc. and you can't get cash off of it at an ATM. You cannot pay rent, heating, etc. with the "food stamp" EBT card.

The TANF EBT cards do allow cash to be taken out, but can be programmed to do the same type of thing. That's why it's a good thing to have debit cards, versus sending out a check in the mail or auto deposit. Easier to control the purchases.

[Rudeboyelvis]

There is no such thing as TANF EBT cards and Food Stamp EBT cards.

There are EBT cards. Period. They are used like food stamps.

Additional funds are added to the EBT card each month, for, like you mentioned -rent, utilities, etc. Those funds (TANF) can be withdrawn from ATMs, including ATM's that are in liquor stores, strip clubs, etc. from the EBT card.

And they can do whatever they want with it.

Which makes your argument:

>>>Actually, that's a good thing for being far more easily able to control where the funds can be spent across the system. You can't purchase non-food items, alcohol, meds, etc. with your food stamp card, it just won't accept certain items with the swipes. It decreases abuse, not increases it. Makes abuse more difficult.<<<

Nothing but a fallacious assumption.