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Old 01-30-2012, 05:34 PM
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Right to work, right to hire, right to fire, right to compete for a job, right to employ the best candidates, etc. etc. etc.
The thought that these laws need to be new is just fascinating.
"Right to work" means overturning current law protecting workers. Don't let the name fool you.

Current "right to work" states include these booming, financially growing, economically sound states:

Alabama
Arizona
Arkansas
Florida
Georgia
Idaho
Iowa
Kansas
Louisiana
Mississippi
Nebraska
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Old 01-30-2012, 06:10 PM
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"Right to work" means overturning current law protecting workers. Don't let the name fool you.
Protecting them from what? Having people who want to strive and succeed not be held back by their unions. From being fired for mediocrity?
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Old 01-30-2012, 06:12 PM
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Protecting them from what? Having people who want to strive and succeed not be held back by their unions. From being fired for mediocrity?
"Protecting" workers from minimum wages, fairer work hours, safer working conditions, fair and equal treatment from employers.

Hey, good luck with that! Support the corporate masters taking away your rights
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Old 01-30-2012, 06:26 PM
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"Protecting" workers from minimum wages, fairer work hours, safer working conditions, fair and equal treatment from employers.

Hey, good luck with that! Support the corporate masters taking away your rights
What union jobs are making min wage?
Dont we have a Dept of Labor at the Federal and state level that protects against "unfair work hours" and unfair and inequal treatment from employers?
Doesn't OSHA protect against unsafe working conditions?

So ONLY union employees are safe from the EVIL employers....
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"Right to work" means overturning current law protecting workers. Don't let the name fool you.

Current "right to work" states include these booming, financially growing, economically sound states:

Alabama
Arizona
Arkansas
Florida
Georgia
Idaho
Iowa
Kansas
Louisiana
Mississippi
Nebraska
Most of my work is done in georgia, louisiana and mississippi. Don't leave out any of the actual booming states though. Or all of the awesome economic masterpieces like michigan.
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Old 01-30-2012, 06:39 PM
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Most of my work is done in georgia, louisiana and mississippi. Don't leave out any of the actual booming states though. Or all of the awesome economic masterpieces like michigan.
I'm not leaving out any states (see below, added more). As I said, those are the states with current right to work laws, that have had those laws this past year and before. Is Michigan right to work? (was not on the list)

Yes, there are other states, in fact many more states, that are economically doing better than the above "right to work" states. They do not have right to work laws, however.

If the point of passing right to work is to improve the economic condition of the state, shouldn't the first thing be to see if it has worked in the past?

Here, found more right to work states:

Nevada
North Carolina
North Dakota
Oklahoma
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Virginia
Wyoming
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I'm not leaving out any states. As I said, those are the states with current right to work laws, that have had those laws this past year and before. Is Michigan right to work? (was not on the list)

Yes, there are other states, in fact many more states, that are economically doing better than the above "right to work" states. They do not have right to work laws, however.

If the point of passing right to work is to improve the economic condition of the state, shouldn't the first thing be to see if it has worked in the past?
What proof is there that these states havent improved? Because you say other states are "doing better"? To what degree does anything pertaining to employees and if they are unionized or not have on "economic conditions" of a state?

I mean I'm sure Mississippi and Idaho would be booming if they had more union workers...
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Old 01-30-2012, 07:34 PM
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What proof is there that these states havent improved?
Their economic ratings.
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Their economic ratings.
AP or Sagarin?
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Old 01-30-2012, 09:36 PM
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AP or Sagarin?
Use whatever you want. Post them here. Show that right to work states have better economic ratings (state GDP, growth, etc.) than non-right to work states. I'll be interested to see what answer you come up with.
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