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[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

No. It's not a joke. You said, "GM and Chrysler are not doing well at all, despite what you might have read." So tell us - what is not true about the below? Looks pretty good to me.

As a "shareholder" LOL, this is not considered a roaring success. GM Jan. 28 2011 $36.60 1 yr later $24.37. This type of performance is generally not even considered a good thing, let alone a "roaring success".

DAI $74.13 down to $56.50, if these are considered good things I would like to function as your broker if that very lucky position is currently unfilled.

It is imperative that this is the way success be measured as it is the only way "we" can see returns.

If you throw $ at every dying company out there of course it will appear to save jobs but dismal fiscal performances (in the eyes of share holders) will cause real investors to leave...again.

Any thoughts on the Ener1 thing???

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

As a "shareholder" LOL, this is not considered a roaring success. GM Jan. 28 2011 $36.60 1 yr later $24.37. This type of performance is generally not even considered a good thing, let alone a "roaring success".

DAI $74.13 down to $56.50, if these are considered good things I would like to function as your broker if that very lucky position is currently unfilled.

It is imperative that this is the way success be measured as it is the only way "we" can see returns.

If you throw $ at every dying company out there of course it will appear to save jobs but dismal fiscal performances (in the eyes of share holders) will cause real investors to leave...again.

Any thoughts on the Ener1 thing???

a little below what we need

The U.S. government would have to sell its General Motors stock for $133.78 per share to recoup the nearly $50 billion it spent bailing out the Detroit automaker, according to a watchdog of government bailout funds

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

As a "shareholder" LOL, this is not considered a roaring success. GM Jan. 28 2011 $36.60 1 yr later $24.37. This type of performance is generally not even considered a good thing, let alone a "roaring success".

DAI $74.13 down to $56.50, if these are considered good things I would like to function as your broker if that very lucky position is currently unfilled.

It is imperative that this is the way success be measured as it is the only way "we" can see returns.

If you throw $ at every dying company out there of course it will appear to save jobs but dismal fiscal performances (in the eyes of share holders) will cause real investors to leave...again.

So you measure success only in publicly traded stock price? Not a very safe way to invest. Is that all you meant?

BTW: you still have a stock ... right?

Any thoughts on the Ener1 thing???

Yeah. I don't think like a Freeper

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

So you measure success only in publicly traded stock price? Not a very safe way to invest. Is that all you meant?

BTW: you still have a stock ... right?



Yeah. I don't think like a Freeper

We all have the stock as taxpayers. Obama sucks as a financial advisor but that's what you get when you put a community organizer with no biz experience in charge of your portfolio.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

We all have the stock as taxpayers. Obama sucks as a financial advisor but that's what you get when you put a community organizer with no biz experience in charge of your portfolio.

I bought a little GM stock when it was low and after the reorg, thanks You are free to have your opinion, I have mine.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

I bought a little GM stock when it was low and after the reorg, thanks You are free to have your opinion, I have mine.

well Obama bought it dirt low and needs $133.78 to break even

[dellinger63]

$24.37 currently.....

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

well Obama bought it dirt low and needs $133.78 to break even

Do you think the company as evaluated previous to reorganization at a stock price of $133.78 and the company now as evaluated at $25.37 are the "same" company, of the same worth and growth potential?

Do you think stock in reorganized manufacturing companies should pay a profit within months? Or say, over 10 years?

It's probably a good thing you don't purchase stocks.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Do you think the company as evaluated previous to reorganization at a stock price of $133.78 and the company now as evaluated at $25.37 are the "same" company, of the same worth and growth potential?

Do you think stock in reorganized manufacturing companies should pay a profit within months? Or say, over 10 years?

It's probably a good thing you don't purchase stocks.

I do purchase stocks.

But usually/always hold for less than 10 years. Cept XOM

But even w/o the 'sense' Obama seems to have for business, I'd never buy a $25 dollar stock knowing I had to get to $132 to get even.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

I bought a little GM stock when it was low and after the reorg, thanks You are free to have your opinion, I have mine.

if I ever become a FL swamp salesman, you're my first call

[Danzig]

http://news.yahoo.com/indiana-law-fi...133033570.html

Indiana right-to-work law to get final push this weekBy Susan Guyett | Reuters – 1 hr 14 mins ago


INDIANAPOLIS (Reuters) - Republicans lawmakers were expected to give a final push this week to legislation that would make Indiana the first right-to-work state in the nation's manufacturing belt, dealing a setback to organized labor in a presidential election year.

The measure, already given preliminary approval by both chambers of the Indiana legislature, would allow workers to opt out of paying union dues, even when a workplace is unionized.

Supporters of right-to-work, led by Indiana's Republican Governor Mitch Daniels, say it is needed to bring business and jobs to the state. Opponents call it "union busting" and say it will hurt workers with lower wages.




....i probably should have started a new thread, but i tend to try to keep stuff within a related one, much like in a normal conversation.

i agree wholeheartedly with this move;it is odd to me that one would ever be required, in this country of all the countries in the world, to join an organization whether one wishes to or not. especially considering it deals with employment.
of course unions would disagree.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://news.yahoo.com/indiana-law-fi...133033570.html

Indiana right-to-work law to get final push this weekBy Susan Guyett | Reuters – 1 hr 14 mins ago


INDIANAPOLIS (Reuters) - Republicans lawmakers were expected to give a final push this week to legislation that would make Indiana the first right-to-work state in the nation's manufacturing belt, dealing a setback to organized labor in a presidential election year.

The measure, already given preliminary approval by both chambers of the Indiana legislature, would allow workers to opt out of paying union dues, even when a workplace is unionized.

Supporters of right-to-work, led by Indiana's Republican Governor Mitch Daniels, say it is needed to bring business and jobs to the state. Opponents call it "union busting" and say it will hurt workers with lower wages.




....i probably should have started a new thread, but i tend to try to keep stuff within a related one, much like in a normal conversation.

i agree wholeheartedly with this move;it is odd to me that one would ever be required, in this country of all the countries in the world, to join an organization whether one wishes to or not. especially considering it deals with employment.
of course unions would disagree.

Right to work, right to hire, right to fire, right to compete for a job, right to employ the best candidates, etc. etc. etc.
The thought that these laws need to be new is just fascinating.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Right to work, right to hire, right to fire, right to compete for a job, right to employ the best candidates, etc. etc. etc.
The thought that these laws need to be new is just fascinating.

"Right to work" means overturning current law protecting workers. Don't let the name fool you.

Current "right to work" states include these booming, financially growing, economically sound states:

Alabama
Arizona
Arkansas
Florida
Georgia
Idaho
Iowa
Kansas
Louisiana
Mississippi
Nebraska

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Right to work, right to hire, right to fire, right to compete for a job, right to employ the best candidates, etc. etc. etc.
The thought that these laws need to be new is just fascinating.

i think it was boeing who not long ago had to re-start a factory in nc because of demands. of course that facility was non-union. so the union facility elsewhere tried to put a stop to work being done there-or did stop it i believe.
if people wish to join unions they can;but i'm all for people being able to work at a facility even if they choose not to join. and i think it should be a choice. if the union is able to offer so much and accomplish much, it seems it would be a no-brainer.
my husband chose to join the union at the facility here-for peace and quiet more than anything.