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Originally Posted by wiphan

Is George Kaiser a republican?

No, he's Democratic and contributed to Obama's campaign, while other shareholders of Solyndra, the majority, happen to be Republican and contributed to Bush. Stop ignoring that.

Unfortunately, while both administrations wanted to capitalize on the publicity of a loan to a promising upstart solar energy company, Solyndra lied on the documentation to get the loan. The loan was first disproved, not by "Bush", but by the regular workers in the DOE, and the loan was subsequently approved, not by "Obama", but by those same regular workers in the DOE. Unfortunately Solyndra faces penalty for lying to the government to get the loan approved.

Stop with the "Solyndra is an Obama Scandal!" That's as ridiculous and false as "he's a Muslim Kenyan!", and everyone else in the world knows it.

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Originally Posted by Riot

No, he's Democratic and contributed to Obama's campaign, while other shareholders of Solyndra, the majority, happen to be Republican and contributed to Bush. Stop ignoring that.

Unfortunately, while both administrations wanted to capitalize on the publicity of a loan to a promising upstart solar energy company, Solyndra lied on the documentation to get the loan. The loan was first disproved, not by "Bush", but by the regular workers in the DOE, and the loan was subsequently approved, not by "Obama", but by those same regular workers in the DOE. Unfortunately Solyndra faces penalty for lying to the government to get the loan approved.

Stop with the "Solyndra is an Obama Scandal!" That's as ridiculous and false as "he's a Muslim Kenyan!", and everyone else in the world knows it.

Thoughts on "Enron1" (thx Uncle Joe!)

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Thoughts on "Enron1" (thx Uncle Joe!)

No thanks. You and Uncle Joe go ahead and explain that to us.

Although, if you refuse to acknowledge the obvious roaring success of the administration betting on the American auto industry, you can't really ignore that while trying to also blame the administration for any failures in the Green energy industry.

But I know that won't stop some :-)

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Originally Posted by Riot

No thanks. You and Uncle Joe go ahead and explain that to us.

I will leave that to Bloomberg.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...rotection.html

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IF these companies were going to succeed and had proper business plans and forecasts, they would not need gov't loans. Private investors would be footing the bill.

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

IF these companies were going to succeed and had proper business plans and forecasts, they would not need gov't loans. Private investors would be footing the bill.

Exactly. But investment capital nowadays goes more to gambling on money, and created financial products, rather than actual capital investments in making something tangible.

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Originally Posted by Riot

No thanks. You and Uncle Joe go ahead and explain that to us.

Although, if you refuse to acknowledge the obvious roaring success of the administration betting on the American auto industry, you can't really ignore that while trying to also blame the administration for any failures in the Green energy industry.

But I know that won't stop some :-)

You are kidding right?
GM and Chrysler are not doing well at all, despite what you might have read. Ford is reasonably solid thanks to new models and a killer ad-campaign.

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

You are kidding right?
GM and Chrysler are not doing well at all, despite what you might have read.

Please, go ahead and explain "how so".

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Originally Posted by Riot

Please, go ahead and explain "how so".

This is a joke right?

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

This is a joke right?

"A **** sandwich is better then a kick in the nuts" .

aka

Being sick is better then being dead.

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

This is a joke right?

No. It's not a joke. You said, "GM and Chrysler are not doing well at all, despite what you might have read." So tell us - what is not true about the below? Looks pretty good to me.

General Motors Reclaims Title Of World's Top-Selling Automaker
TOM KRISHER 01/19/12 03:48 PM ET Associated Press

DETROIT — General Motors Co. has retaken the title of world's top-selling automaker, selling just over 9 million cars and trucks across the globe.

The company said Thursday that it sold 9.03 million vehicles worldwide last year, up 7.6 percent from 2010. That's more than 1 million better than Japan's Toyota Motor Corp., which took the title away from GM in 2008.

GM had held the global sales crown for more than seven decades before losing it to Toyota, as GM's sales tanked while it headed toward financial ruin. In 2009, GM filed for bankruptcy protection, needing a U.S. government bailout to survive.

Now GM is profitable again and its vehicles are selling well across the globe. The company reported net income of $7.1 billion for the first three quarters of last year, and it is expected to add to that number when it reports fourth-quarter and full-year results in February.