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Old 11-01-2006, 09:35 PM
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Cooperation between all the tracks and racing entities. A true National Authority like other major sports have. If NASCAR can make a mint by incessantly running automobiles around a track, I should certainly think horse racing could stand on its own. This is one of the most fractured entertainment industries in the country.

And for Christ sakes I am not telling anybody what to do with their horses. I am saying this sport is dying a slow death. Do you get that Mr. 1984? Or it would be communistic for diff. entities with in the sport to unite? Good lord.
that has nothing to do with what you've been saying. you've been bemoaning the fact that star horses like azeri were running in races in order to "win" them instead of to "compete" and provide an entertaining race for the fans. that's my beef with what you said. i have no delusions that racing is in dire straits and needs to figure something out and that all entities need to work together -- that portion of the conversation has nothing to do with why i even jumped in.

i jumped in because i said you were talking like a crazy person complaining about how star horses are campaigned.

you've totally just changed the subject and are now trying to talk back to me with some business that i completely agree with, not anything at all having to do with the original portion of your posting that i took issue with -- you'll note, that my issue in my original post was from a quote of yours -- a quote of exactly ONE line.....refer back to it if you must.
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Old 11-01-2006, 10:12 PM
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that has nothing to do with what you've been saying. you've been bemoaning the fact that star horses like azeri were running in races in order to "win" them instead of to "compete" and provide an entertaining race for the fans. that's my beef with what you said. i have no delusions that racing is in dire straits and needs to figure something out and that all entities need to work together -- that portion of the conversation has nothing to do with why i even jumped in.

i jumped in because i said you were talking like a crazy person complaining about how star horses are campaigned.

you've totally just changed the subject and are now trying to talk back to me with some business that i completely agree with, not anything at all having to do with the original portion of your posting that i took issue with -- you'll note, that my issue in my original post was from a quote of yours -- a quote of exactly ONE line.....refer back to it if you must.
Azeri was a personal beef of mine. I admit complete selfishness in wanting to see her run against competition instead of being bored stiff running against the same horses time and again. And I believe in true handicap races her handlers intentions could have been changed by really weighing her down possibly forcing her to face males in more lucrative races instead of shooting for some stupid winning streak against the little leagues while not carrying imposts making for a fair race. They use to do this in handicap races. They would really handicap a horse. And then people would bet.
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Old 11-01-2006, 10:17 PM
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that has nothing to do with what you've been saying. you've been bemoaning the fact that star horses like azeri were running in races in order to "win" them instead of to "compete" and provide an entertaining race for the fans. that's my beef with what you said. i have no delusions that racing is in dire straits and needs to figure something out and that all entities need to work together -- that portion of the conversation has nothing to do with why i even jumped in.

i jumped in because i said you were talking like a crazy person complaining about how star horses are campaigned.

you've totally just changed the subject and are now trying to talk back to me with some business that i completely agree with, not anything at all having to do with the original portion of your posting that i took issue with -- you'll note, that my issue in my original post was from a quote of yours -- a quote of exactly ONE line.....refer back to it if you must.
And if we did agree on the state of racing, why did you ask me what I would do? You should have known what should be done if we COMPLETELY AGREE.

oh yes. I like your music.

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Old 11-01-2006, 11:30 PM
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And if we did agree on the state of racing, why did you ask me what I would do? You should have known what should be done if we COMPLETELY AGREE.

oh yes. I like your music.
we completely agree that something needs to happen, i just wasn't seeing how running azeri against boys was your panacea for the sport -- or the small-scale example of a sport-saving action.

i get what you're saying now -- but we're talking about two different things are once -- plus, perhaps i'm mistaken, but wasn't she getting pretty darn weighted down in a lot of those races?

it's a moot point to ask because this thread will be four pages down by the time i get back from chicago on sunday --

oh well, i've enjoyed our chat!
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