John Kerry WHY?!

[Revolution]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Where are your sources? Of course the average income is going to increase if even a small number of rich kids enlist. That doesn't mean the majority of men and women in the military don't come from poor families.

The majority do NOT come from what is categorized as poor families. The majority do not have terrible grades either. You need to stop listening to propaganda from the liberals. This war is moronic, but the members of the military are not uneducated poor people, which you seem to be insinuating. It doesn't attract a ton of very wealthy kids that would be going to the highest priced universities, but it attracts a huge amount of middle class people.

I hate to say it, but you sure did come across as a snob who looks down on the members of the military. Similar to John Kerry's views.

My cousin went straight into the military and he could have gone to college first, but now he is an engineer with a college degree from a very good school.

Believe it or not, some people feel they are fortunate to live in america and feel it is their duty or obligation to do something for their country.

It sure did look like members of our military were the ones helping the people after Katrina, not educated kids who "are too smart" to join the military.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Revolution

The majority do NOT come from what is categorized as poor families. The majority do not have terrible grades either. You need to stop listening to propaganda from the liberals. This war is moronic, but the members of the military are not uneducated poor people, which you seem to be insinuating. It doesn't attract a ton of very wealthy kids that would be going to the highest priced universities, but it attracts a huge amount of middle class people.

I hate to say it, but you sure did come across as a snob who looks down on the members of the military. Similar to John Kerry's views.

My cousin went straight into the military and he could have gone to college first, but now he is an engineer with a college degree from a very good school.

Believe it or not, some people feel they are fortunate to live in america and feel it is their duty or obligation to do something for their country.

It sure did look like members of our military were the ones helping the people after Katrina, not educated kids who "are too smart" to join the military.

my son actually had a teacher tell him 'oh, you're too smart to go into the navy, what a waste'. i could have screamed. thank god he didn't listen! this is what he chose to do, he could have done anything, been anything--he chose to join two years ago--every branch of the military was after him because he scored so high on his asvab. my daughter is talking of going in, as is my son who wants to turn a naval aviation career into becoming an astronaut. yeah, real country hicks huh? evidently those who feel the need to belittle those who work to allow them to continue to abuse their freedom of speech must not realize the level of training, the sheer amount of knowledge necessary, to operate so much of the high tech equipment in our modern military!!

[Revolution]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

my son actually had a teacher tell him 'oh, you're too smart to go into the navy, what a waste'. i could have screamed. thank god he didn't listen! this is what he chose to do, he could have done anything, been anything--he chose to join two years ago--every branch of the military was after him because he scored so high on his asvab. my daughter is talking of going in, as is my son who wants to turn a naval aviation career into becoming an astronaut. yeah, real country hicks huh? evidently those who feel the need to belittle those who work to allow them to continue to abuse their freedom of speech must not realize the level of training, the sheer amount of knowledge necessary, to operate so much of the high tech equipment in our modern military!!

There is a real guilt that a lot of people that have never done anything to serve their country feel, and what they do is attack people that do something like join the military because it helps them deal with their knowing they have never done anything that wasn't selfish.

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it really angers me to see people just brush off those who fight, and sometimes die, to protect them--to slight them, to suggest they had no choice, that they are victims who had to join the military or starve, as if that was the only way to get ahead. and yes, some do join partly due to the gi bill--which to me is a great way for the govt to help those veterans who helped their country, but many more look at the military as a viable career in and of itself. they don't go to the recruiter like lambs to the slaughter, these men and women are proud of what they are doing--and the incredibly high re-enlistment rate bears that out!! they aren't doing four year tours and running for the nearest college, they're staying in droves.
i'm proud of my son, and i'm far from proud of some of my countrymen for belittling them and their career choice.

[Revolution]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

it really angers me to see people just brush off those who fight, and sometimes die, to protect them--to slight them, to suggest they had no choice, that they are victims who had to join the military or starve, as if that was the only way to get ahead. and yes, some do join partly due to the gi bill--which to me is a great way for the govt to help those veterans who helped their country, but many more look at the military as a viable career in and of itself. they don't go to the recruiter like lambs to the slaughter, these men and women are proud of what they are doing--and the incredibly high re-enlistment rate bears that out!! they aren't doing four year tours and running for the nearest college, they're staying in droves.
i'm proud of my son, and i'm far from proud of some of my countrymen for belittling them and their career choice.

You can't win with these people. They will always criticize people who join the military, probably because people who serve our country will always be able to say they did something for their country, and most of them have done nothing. I am going to be a post-bac next year and finish up my requirements, but USU is definitely my first choice for medical school.

Originally Posted by Revolution

The majority do NOT come from what is categorized as poor families. The majority do not have terrible grades either. You need to stop listening to propaganda from the liberals. This war is moronic, but the members of the military are not uneducated poor people, which you seem to be insinuating. It doesn't attract a ton of very wealthy kids that would be going to the highest priced universities, but it attracts a huge amount of middle class people.

I mistakenly used the word poor in my last reply because you insinuated I was speaking of poor people. My mistake.

But regardless most middle class families cannot afford to send their kids to college. That burden usually falls on the child through means of student loans and/or a job.

Originally Posted by Revolution

I hate to say it, but you sure did come across as a snob who looks down on the members of the military. Similar to John Kerry's views.

I have never said one disparaging word about the troops. Learn how to read before you make an ignorant accusation like that, you pretentious jackass.

Originally Posted by Revolution

My cousin went straight into the military and he could have gone to college first, but now he is an engineer with a college degree from a very good school.

Good for him. Do you want a cookie?

Originally Posted by Revolution

Believe it or not, some people feel they are fortunate to live in america and feel it is their duty or obligation to do something for their country.

Thanks for enlightening me. I still fail to see your point but i'm willing to bet you don't have one.

Originally Posted by Revolution

It sure did look like members of our military were the ones helping the people after Katrina, not educated kids who "are too smart" to join the military.

ADHD in the hizouse.

[Revolution]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Dude, you're wrong on many counts....as usual. And your reputation for providing the facts isn't exactly stellar on this forum either.

I love your comment. I am wrong on many things, but you just can't point them out. Go ahead point out where I am wrong. I am waiting dahoss, but i know you will make your statement and run off like a coward.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

First off Nostradamus, I never run away, if I am wrong, I admit it, something you and your "gang" should learn. I have neither the energy, nor the desire to engage you in a debate, because they will lead, like most on here with you, nowhere. I will say this, Kerry acts like he has the answers for everyone because he is a politician, that's what they do. Does Bush not do this, um, we are in Iraq right? You were wrong, because you are pretending to know how Kerry acts or thinks. He said a stupid thing that has now been twisted, to deflect from what the real problem here is, the fact that we are still losing troops at a rapid rate. You were right, after 9-11 people that never would have joined the military did, but that is declining now, due to the fact we are in such a mess in the middle east. Some could probably argue that you are an elitist, since you seem to know what is good for everyone.

people joining is not declining, every branch has had more enlistments than they needed or aimed for, and more re-enlistments as well.
i think the dems biggest problem with the military is that most military is tilted towards the republican party. so it's not a demographic the dems really seek to please.

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the only real job kerry ever had was while he was in the military. He screwed that up at the best and was a rat at the worst.
He has lived off the money of former husbands and or the families of two very stupid woman. I think that is what he meant by being uneducated. It was Teresa he was talking about not the troops.
Now Mr. Kerry go work a real job and take that drunk Kennedy with you!!!! I for one don't want to pay either one any part of your salaries.

[Revolution]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

First off Nostradamus, I never run away, if I am wrong, I admit it, something you and your "gang" should learn. I have neither the energy, nor the desire to engage you in a debate, because they will lead, like most on here with you, nowhere. I will say this, Kerry acts like he has the answers for everyone because he is a politician, that's what they do. Does Bush not do this, um, we are in Iraq right? You were wrong, because you are pretending to know how Kerry acts or thinks. He said a stupid thing that has now been twisted, to deflect from what the real problem here is, the fact that we are still losing troops at a rapid rate. You were right, after 9-11 people that never would have joined the military did, but that is declining now, due to the fact we are in such a mess in the middle east. Some could probably argue that you are an elitist, since you seem to know what is good for everyone.

You guys are so full of crap. When we posted under one name you guys had a problem, and now that we post under different names we are the same person. Nice reasoning, but I guess you have nothing constructive to say. Once again, you guys are making up nonsense. Once again DaHoss, a post full of nothing but nonsense from you. I guess the troops there agree with me though, not you, which is what I suspected. Kerry too, considered he issued an apology finally.

All the elitist moron had to do was issue and apology right away, but no, he is too smart and never wrong. He isn't running for election, how hard would it have just been for him to just apologize right away. When you wait days to do it, nobody believe it is genuine.

Kerry is a known elitist in the media, even the british media.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m.../02/do0202.xml

Originally Posted by Revolution

You guys are so full of crap. When we posted under one name you guys had a problem, and now that we post under different names we are the same person. Nice reasoning, but I guess you have nothing constructive to say. Once again, you guys are making up nonsense. Once again DaHoss, a post full of nothing but nonsense from you. I guess the troops there agree with me though, not you, which is what I suspected. Kerry too, considered he issued an apology finally.

All the elitist moron had to do was issue and apology right away, but no, he is too smart and never wrong. He isn't running for election, how hard would it have just been for him to just apologize right away. When you wait days to do it, nobody believe it is genuine.

Kerry is a known elitist in the media, even the british media.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m.../02/do0202.xml

All of your personalities suck. When are you going to throw a baby fit and declare you aren't posting under this name?