Breeders' Cup goes back to NBC

NTamm1215 · #1 01-23-2012, 11:54 AM

I'm sure we've heard the last of Trevor Denman as well.

MaTH716 · #2 01-23-2012, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I'm sure we've heard the last of Trevor Denman as well.

Nick, why do you say that?

NTamm1215 · #3 01-23-2012, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716

Nick, why do you say that?

Trevor's deal is with the network, not the BC. Thus, he has no deal with NBC. If NBC wanted him then they could have him continue to do it, but NBC showed no interest in having him call the TC and has already employed Trevor for a period of time.

That was the nature of the problem when the BC went to ESPN in 2006 and Durkin was out of the loop. NBC does not want their Triple Crown announcer to call races on national TV on a different network. That's why ESPN had Denman do it.

MaTH716 · #4 01-23-2012, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Trevor's deal is with the network, not the BC. Thus, he has no deal with NBC. If NBC wanted him then they could have him continue to do it, but NBC showed no interest in having him call the TC and has already employed Trevor for a period of time.

That was the nature of the problem when the BC went to ESPN in 2006 and Durkin was out of the loop. NBC does not want their Triple Crown announcer to call races on national TV on a different network. That's why ESPN had Denman do it.

Thank you for the explination.

Danzig · #5 01-23-2012, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I'm sure we've heard the last of Trevor Denman as well.

from your mouth to gods ears...well, someone's ears.

pointman · #6 01-23-2012, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I'm sure we've heard the last of Trevor Denman as well.

Can we really be that lucky?

dagolfer33 · #7 01-23-2012, 01:46 PM

Battalia waiting in the wings to make the BC classic call. "and they're off.......for the lead...."

10 pnt move up · #8 01-23-2012, 01:55 PM

Wonder what the numbers of national households that have NBCSports versus ESPN? I believe on most cable operators that NBCSports is part of a sports premium versus ESPN which is basic cable?

ajphilly · #9 01-23-2012, 01:59 PM

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Wonder what the numbers of national households that have NBCSports versus ESPN? I believe on most cable operators that NBCSports is part of a sports premium versus ESPN which is basic cable?

Comcast has NBC Sports on basic cable, but Comcast also owns NBC Sports.

3kings · #10 01-23-2012, 02:23 PM

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Wonder what the numbers of national households that have NBCSports versus ESPN? I believe on most cable operators that NBCSports is part of a sports premium versus ESPN which is basic cable?

I think NBC Sports (Versus) is pretty widly distributed on basic cable in the northeast and midwest because they have been carrying the NHL for a few years now. Not sure about the rest of the country.

MaTH716 · #11 01-23-2012, 02:39 PM

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Wonder what the numbers of national households that have NBCSports versus ESPN? I believe on most cable operators that NBCSports is part of a sports premium versus ESPN which is basic cable?

I don't think thats the issue though. Speaking for myself, I have a handful of channels that I'll always flick through (The ESPN's, MSG, YES, NFL net. TVG etc.) and NBC Sports isn't on the list. I'm guessing that's the case for a lot of other people too, because besides hockey what else does the channel have to offer? So if it was carried on ESPN, you might possibly gain some viewers who stumble across it as opposed to NBC Sports network. I know it's a real stretch, but I just feel like it has a better chance of picking up viewers (and being seen by advertisements) on ESPN, then on NBC sports.

Danzig · #12 01-23-2012, 02:48 PM

i expect nbc will have a fair amount of advertising, just like they do for the olympics. well, maybe not quite as much as for the olympics. but they seem to want to make their sports network work, so they have to push it a lot. yes, i tune in there for hockey. but i know if i want to watch a sports news show, i go to theirs, as i can't stand the pomposity of espn these days.
and i think the belmont moving back to nbc in '11 gave it higher ratings then in past years...

LARHAGE · #13 01-23-2012, 03:03 PM

Well if NBCsports is Versus that makes me happy as that is basic programming on Dish Network.

10 pnt move up · #14 01-23-2012, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716

I don't think thats the issue though. Speaking for myself, I have a handful of channels that I'll always flick through (The ESPN's, MSG, YES, NFL net. TVG etc.) and NBC Sports isn't on the list. I'm guessing that's the case for a lot of other people too, because besides hockey what else does the channel have to offer? So if it was carried on ESPN, you might possibly gain some viewers who stumble across it as opposed to NBC Sports network. I know it's a real stretch, but I just feel like it has a better chance of picking up viewers (and being seen by advertisements) on ESPN, then on NBC sports.

Yea not really sure, I know on Cox its part of basic cable but I know on Dtv it used to be channel 605 which was with the TVG and those type channels you would get as part of the sports package.

I just think going from NBC to ESPN to Versus (now NBC Sports) is following a very unhealthy progression.

freddymo · #15 01-23-2012, 05:58 PM

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I don't think thats the issue though. Speaking for myself, I have a handful of channels that I'll always flick through (The ESPN's, MSG, YES, NFL net. TVG etc.) and NBC Sports isn't on the list. I'm guessing that's the case for a lot of other people too, because besides hockey what else does the channel have to offer? So if it was carried on ESPN, you might possibly gain some viewers who stumble across it as opposed to NBC Sports network. I know it's a real stretch, but I just feel like it has a better chance of picking up viewers (and being seen by advertisements) on ESPN, then on NBC sports.

Getting racing developed on the NBCSports network is a good thing. Comcast bought 51% of the entire network fom GE and Comcast is looking to invest in the new face of the Sport Network it could be very good news for racing. Lets say they do well with this and then start to partner with NYRA for SPA andthe fall Championship stuff.

MaTH716 · #16 01-23-2012, 07:47 PM

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Getting racing developed on the NBCSports network is a good thing. Comcast bought 51% of the entire network fom GE and Comcast is looking to invest in the new face of the Sport Network it could be very good news for racing. Lets say they do well with this and then start to partner with NYRA for SPA andthe fall Championship stuff.

I just hope that they promote it well on the big network. Maybe they can even put up a special crawl/box during the Notre Dame game, giving up to date odds, prices and most importantly minutes to post. At least people will have an idea that there is a special event going on and when they can tune in to see a race.

mclem0822 · #17 01-23-2012, 02:04 PM

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Battalia waiting in the wings to make the BC classic call. "and they're off.......for the lead...."

Noooooo!

Alan07 · #18 01-23-2012, 02:06 PM

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Noooooo!

Don't worry.

mclem0822 · #19 01-23-2012, 04:36 PM

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Don't worry.

I know he was joking Alan, just cannot stand Battaglia's calls, snooze enducer!

dagolfer33 · #20 01-23-2012, 04:48 PM

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I know he was joking Alan, just cannot stand Battaglia's calls, snooze enducer!

IMO, if anyone new deserves a shot at the national stage it should be John Dooley. He is very good at bringing excitement and accuracy to a racecall, and his descriptive style would be appealing.