1/28 (GP/SA): Florida & California Sunshine Millions

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

I know the Sunshine Millions was "restructured" but I still don't understand why.

Isn't it silly when both tracks are running their respective races?

Does anyone get it and, if so, can you explain it?

It was always a fun day to go to SA. I'm sure it still will be but I liked the idea of friendly competition.

All six of the races that were previously split between the two tracks are now being run exclusively at GP. The SA races as part of it are simply Cal bred races there were previously run at different times during the meet.

The races are dumb in the sense that they take away from open company races coming up soon. The Donn field would be greatly aided by having some of those Sunshine Millions Classic horses in it.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

All six of the races that were previously split between the two tracks are now being run exclusively at GP. The SA races as part of it are simply Cal bred races there were previously run at different times during the meet.

Okay got it and sorry for being lazy... if you go to the SA site you're smacked across the face with the big Sunshine Millions ad so I just assumed...

[gamblin4ever]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

All six of the races that were previously split between the two tracks are now being run exclusively at GP. The SA races as part of it are simply Cal bred races there were previously run at different times during the meet.

The races are dumb in the sense that they take away from open company races coming up soon. The Donn field would be greatly aided by having some of those Sunshine Millions Classic horses in it.

I can't remember who said but I believe it was due to not many shippers, so they decided it best this way. I'm probably wrong though.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by gamblin4ever

I can't remember who said but I believe it was due to not many shippers, so they decided it best this way. I'm probably wrong though.

You're probably right. I thought the horsemen in CA squawked a bit too about how much money was going to restricted races. The whole concept is pretty idiotic in the end.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

The whole concept is pretty idiotic in the end.

Being there though... there was something fun about it.

I don't like the 50 million food truck days or the 10k run, beer festivals, etc. but this was like just a little extra fun betting. Maybe cause you'd root for horses from your state and the other people who were there understood it... it wasn't so much one of those days where the track would try to lure in new people as it was(seemed like) more for the fans who are also bettors. The other people knew the horses names (too) and it made for fun conversation with strangers, etc.

I don't know, it was just fun even though the concept might have been silly.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

I don't know, it was just fun even though the concept might have been silly.

It's not silly, it's destructive to top class racing.

The only way a microbrew festival can impact top class racing is if some drunken idiot gets onto the track and takes a swing at a champion sprinter racing down the stretch.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

It's not silly, it's destructive to top class racing.

I'm a little surprised by this line...

Did the Sunshine Millions ever draw many top class horses?

I've been a fan of many but top class?

... or am I completely misunderstanding?

Too many tracks... that could make a good argument but a series of races one day a year? I'm sorry I don't unerstand.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

I'm a little surprised by this line...

Did the Sunshine Millions ever draw many top class horses?

I've been a fan of many but top class?

... or am I completely misunderstanding?

Too many tracks... that could make a good argument but a series of races one day a year? I'm sorry I don't unerstand.

You're kidding, right?

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[freddymo]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

I'm a little surprised by this line...

Did the Sunshine Millions ever draw many top class horses?

I've been a fan of many but top class?

... or am I completely misunderstanding?

Too many tracks... that could make a good argument but a series of races one day a year? I'm sorry I don't unerstand.

What is so hard to get Missy? You have the Donn and a myriad of important graded races at GP its suppose to be the Mecca of Winter racing. Good horses like MMMan Sweet Repent and Awesome Feather are going to run in easy spots to pad trainers/owners pockets vs. more difficult open company. There just arent a lot of good horses(fast) and when these easy slushy spots open up it hurts the value of a Great race like the Donn etc.

[gamblin4ever]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

You're probably right. I thought the horsemen in CA squawked a bit too about how much money was going to restricted races. The whole concept is pretty idiotic in the end.

I understand,but, I think it's a good concept if later in the meet so it doesn't hurt stakes like the Donn. The 3 yr olds not good enough for the Derby would be able to run also.

[Travis Stone]

The concept is fine, but the timing is not.

[RolloTomasi]

I don't see how it's a good concept regardless of calendar placement.

The inflated purses and state-bred restrictions will always take away from tougher graded stakes races.

[NTamm1215]

For what it's worth, the F/M Sprint race is interesting with It's Me Mom in it. She has won three in a row overall and her last two at Tampa were very impressive. On paper, she will be a tough match for Pomeroys Pistol and Musical Romance. Beat the Blues is no slouch either.

[gamblin4ever]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

I don't see how it's a good concept regardless of calendar placement.

The inflated purses and state-bred restrictions will always take away from tougher graded stakes races.

There are too many graded stakes as is that top horses can bypass each other. At least these can bring the better horses from the state together for good racing. These FLA races are interesting from a betting point and due to the over abundance of graded stakes, most probably bypass the Donn and others looking for easier spots.