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Old 01-13-2012, 05:18 PM
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Default The cognative dissonence is simply amazing

Obama suggests something that is a conservative wet dream (making government smaller and less expensive) and conservative heads explode in anger and ad hominem attacks!

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President Barack Obama stepped firmly onto Republican turf Friday, announcing that he wants to merge a half-dozen agencies to cut spending and streamline the federal government.

Obama’s plan would merge the Commerce Department, the Small Business Administration, the Office of the U.S. Trade representative and other independent business agencies into a new, unnamed Cabinet agency.

“This is an area that should receive bipartisan support because making our government more responsive and strategic and leaner shouldn’t be a partisan issue,” Obama said as he announced the initiative at the White House. “We can do this better. We can provide taxpayers better value.”

White House officials estimated the consolidation would save $3 billion during the next 10 years and eliminate 1,000 to 2,000 jobs through attrition — as employees leave, they would not be replaced. The savings represent a tiny fraction of the overall federal budget of nearly $4 trillion annually.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories...#ixzz1jNZcVxIc
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Old 01-13-2012, 05:19 PM
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Default By the way ... saying the President has enlarged

government? Pretty much an outright lie. There are about the same number of federal employees now as there were during Bush. Zero significant difference.

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Big Government? Obama Has 273,000 Fewer Federal Employees Than Reagan

According to the U.S. Office of Personnel Management, which tracks the number of employees per year, the data shows that the “conservatives” for small government are really just big government conservatives. I know that is an oxymoron, but numbers don’t lie.

http://www.politicususa.com/en/big-g...t-obama-reagan
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Obama suggests something that is a conservative wet dream (making government smaller and less expensive) and conservative heads explode in anger and ad hominem attacks!
When Obama held his press conference Friday, where he both admitted and confessed to Government being too big and overly redundant, the final element was put in place, creating The Perfect Storm.

For decades the Republican Party has stated government was too big but has failed miserably doing anything about it. The American Libertarian Party knew it since the day they were founded. So if only we can defeat the American Communist Party we have all parties on board a common cause, something that hasn’t occurred since perhaps we landed on the moon.

However like going to the moon, the achievement isn’t gained with simply an idea and or plan but rather setting the idea as a goal, then fulfilling the goal and completing the plan.

A Super Committee, of purportedly our finest politicians, from both parties, (no Libertarians or members of any other party) was assembled this past summer/fall to propose cuts in the mega-trillion dollar Obama budget. After meeting for months, conducting as they called it, exhaustive talks, they as a group, were unable to cut a single dollar. As I’ve expounded here before, this result was inevitable as each and every politician, that made up that Super Committee, was elected to office based not on what he/she could cut but to the contrary what he/she could provide.

The brightest of the bight politicians, fighting over money for their States and causes is akin to a group of starving Ethiopians fighting over food. There is no order. No sharing and most important no saving or even notion of saving. The Ethiopians are fighting because of starvation. Our politicians are fighting because of greed.

Let’s be honest. The Press Conference farce called Friday was nothing but a taxpayer paid, political commercial full of lies. Unfortunately for the taxpayer, the President’s counterpart, the Republicans will not call his bluff by drawing up bills, detailing consolidations because it’s not in their interest to cut anything either.

Until the taxpayer figures out they’re in a three-handed poker game they weren’t invited to but are anteing in every hand, they’re screwed. If Mr. Taxpayer were able to be at the table, he’d see the Democrat and Republican winking at each other and only taking a hand out of turn when the other is in the bathroom or not looking.

Consolidation, especially in the case of the U.S. Government, would be a piece of cake if only the Government sought out private professionals to handle the job. Leaving it to Government and the President to solve is the equivalent of asking Harry Reid and the Senate to build a rocket, John Bohner & Co. to build a ground support system, and have the President pilot his family to the moon on his next vacation.

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Old 01-16-2012, 03:20 PM
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Mr. President, congrats on the recess nomination of three additional appointments to the National Labor Board whom I trust surely is not part of the redundancy you spoke of. Good luck defending the lawsuit.

Kind of like Seinfeld’s, ‘Opposite George’ move!!!!!

Actually more of a ‘Curious George’ move.
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Mr. President, congrats on the recess nomination of three additional appointments to the National Labor Board whom I trust surely is not part of the redundancy you spoke of. Good luck defending the lawsuit.

Kind of like Seinfeld’s, ‘Opposite George’ move!!!!!

Actually more of a ‘Curious George’ move.
well, are they recess noms if there was no recess? surely everything is above-board. he promised nothing less.
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well, are they recess noms if there was no recess? surely everything is above-board. he promised nothing less.
Three new jobs! Hip hip hoorayyyyy
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well, are they recess noms if there was no recess? surely everything is above-board. he promised nothing less.
The Justice Department issued a legal opinion last week. Based upon Justice Department legal precedents and opinions from the George W Bush administration, this fits just fine.

Yes, Republicans have tried to render the Labor Board and Consumer Protection unworkable - and failed. Ridiculous obstructionists, working for politics instead of us. Obama Derangement Syndrome in full-blown screaming hissy fit.
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Survey released by the US Chamber of Commerce of over 1,300 small businesses with a +/- 2.5%

74% (or simply put three out of four) are NOT HIRING because of reform.

86% said that regulations, restrictions and taxes were major concerns.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/18/su...#ixzz1jwAiieeU

The response this morning, to the survey by Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, was ‘small businesses pay 18% more for care than larger corporations and change is coming. She went on to belittle the respondents (small business owners) stating they didn’t know what was in the bill.’

How ignorant and narcissistically self-righteous are these people? This lady actually believes she knows more about small businesses than their owners? Have we actually evolved from it taking a village to raise a child to it taking government to run your business? Business owners are screaming their problems stem from taxation and regulation and the government is responding with more taxation and regulation.

At least her audacious statements revealed a likely motive behind Obama’s streamline government press conference/plan. The timing of announcing the elevation of the Small Business Administration to a cabinet level position, at the conference was curious. Especially in light of the President explaining the SBA was one of six separate agencies all dealing with business and commerce thus making it (the SBA) redundant.

Furthermore when the President represented the streamline authorization he sought to be a ‘money saver’ yet explained only $3 billion would be saved over 10 years and in a Moses Parts the Sea moment, despite the streamlining of numerous agencies, proclaimed the only jobs lost would be thru retirement, the actual intent of the plan was exposed.

In a three card Monty like move the President kept showing the money-saving and efficient cards until he had the suckers pulled in and then popped the power card.

This ploy has thankfully been exposed and now needs to be stopped.

What nefarious reason would the President have for wanting the SBA to be part of his cabinet?

How much money does the SBA distribute in loans every year and who controls the guidelines for those loans?

Why would he want to control the streamlining of government?

Simple, to prevent it, as demonstrated by his plans for consolidation without any termination. Can you imagine any private business consolidating offices because of redundancy yet not laying off or terminating anyone?

An even greater danger exists with the potential gain of control of SBA loans. Should the President in a Clintonian/Fannie-Freddie like moment decide the guidelines should be changed and factors like merit, credit and business plan should be exchanged with cultural merits and considerations of entities outside of the traditional business and credit standards. The SBA could then compete with Fannie/Freddie in the category of epic failure. Of course no jobs will be lost.

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The US Chamber of Commerce is a right-wing organization. One well-known to have some trouble with the truth:

http://www.justice.org/PressRoom/Pre...ut_chamber.pdf
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