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Old 01-07-2012, 01:10 AM
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It is nice that we saved the Iranian fisherman. Too bad our Navy doesn't take a more aggressive approach against pirates preying on merchant vessels and pleasure craft.
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Old 01-07-2012, 05:26 AM
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Well it's totally o.k. To bomb their country now.
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Default US Navy saves Iranian sailors from pirates

Or, better still, have Israel do it. Some itchy trigger fingers with Iran squarely in their sights.


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Old 01-07-2012, 12:26 PM
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You fools...that Iranian Fishy Ship.




That is the Iranian Armada!!
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Old 01-07-2012, 12:29 PM
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you'd think irans tremendous naval force could have saved their own folks-i mean, that juggernaut has enough force to keep us out of the gulf, to close the strait of hormuz...

anyway, glad they were rescued.
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Or, better still, have Israel do it. Some itchy trigger fingers with Iran squarely in their sights.


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It is nice that we saved the Iranian fisherman. Too bad our Navy doesn't take a more aggressive approach against pirates preying on merchant vessels and pleasure craft.


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Navy Seals kill Somali Pirates, Captain Richards Rescued
By LEE FERRAN
April 13, 2009

At least one former SEAL was not surprised that each of the three Somali pirates was killed with just one shot, despite the fact that they were on a rolling sea and the Navy snipers had to make a successful "head shot," something he said is "extremely difficult."
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That definitely showed the pirates about who is boss. The only pirates that you see today are played by Johnny Depp. Of course, for those who elevate symbolism over long term results, taking out a few Somali pirates is sufficient.
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That definitely showed the pirates about who is boss. The only pirates that you see today are played by Johnny Depp. Of course, for those who elevate symbolism over long term results, taking out a few Somali pirates is sufficient.
I'm not sure why you say our navy doesn't aggressively go after pirates. Our navy aggressively patrols international waters off the coast of Africa and the Sea of Hormuz just to look for pirates, and aggressively engages them when found. The above isn't the only instance.

Why do you think we do not do that? It doesn't make sense. Our navy deliberately and aggressively goes after pirates constantly, they patrol certain international waters just to keep merchant vessels safe from pirates.

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March 06, 2011|By the CNN Wire Staff

The USS Bulkeley helped rescue an oil tanker in the Indian Ocean from suspected pirates on Saturday.

A U.S. Navy ship came to the rescue of an oil tanker in the Indian Ocean on Saturday after four suspected pirates climbed aboard.

The Japanese-owned MV Guanabara reported it was under attack Friday afternoon 328 nautical miles southeast of Oman, the Navy said. The Guanabara had 24 crew members aboard.

The warship USS Bulkeley, assigned to the Combined Maritime Forces' CTF-151 counter-piracy mission, was directed to intercept the Guanabara, supported by the Turkish warship TCG Giresun of NATO's counter-piracy task force.

After Guanabara's master confirmed to the Bulkeley that his crew had taken refuge in the ship's citadel room, or secure compartment, the Bulkeley's specialist boarding team climbed aboard Saturday, detained the four men and secured the vessel, the Navy said.

There was no exchange of fire at any time during the operation, and an SH-60 Seahawk helicopter supported the boarding team from the air, the Navy added.

Officials said they are still deciding what to do with the suspected pirates. The U.S. Navy did not disclose the nationalities of those detained or where they were being taken.

"Through our mutual cooperation and shared coordination, CTF-151 and our partner organizations has prevented the kidnapping of legitimate mariners who sought only to go peacefully about their business," said CMF's counter-piracy commander, Commodore Abdul Alheem. "Today, there will be a merchant ship sailing freely that would not be doing so were it not for the efforts of CTF-151."

The Combined Maritime Forces is a naval partnership of 25 member nations including the United States that works to disrupt piracy and armed robbery and improve security in international waters off the Middle East.
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I'm not sure why you say our navy doesn't aggressively go after pirates. Our navy aggressively patrols international waters off the coast of Africa and the Sea of Hormuz just to look for pirates, and aggressively engages them when found. The above isn't the only instance.

Why do you think we do not do that? It doesn't make sense. Our navy deliberately and aggressively goes after pirates constantly, they patrol certain international waters just to keep merchant vessels safe from pirates.
So our navy aggressively goes after pirates, yet sea piracy remains a huge problem for merchant and pleasure vessels off the coast of Africa and the Sea of Hormuz? That doesn't say much about our navy, as well as the naval forces of other world powers, does it?
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So our navy aggressively goes after pirates, yet sea piracy remains a huge problem for merchant and pleasure vessels off the coast of Africa and the Sea of Hormuz? That doesn't say much about our navy, as well as the naval forces of other world powers, does it?
Kinda like how police departments across the country aggressively go after criminals, but yet, criminals remain. Guess our police departments suck. If they were any good, all the criminals would be gone.
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Kinda like how police departments across the country aggressively go after criminals, but yet, criminals remain. Guess our police departments suck. If they were any good, all the criminals would be gone.
I don't know why I even bother responding to you, oh mistress of propaganda.
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So our navy aggressively goes after pirates, yet sea piracy remains a huge problem for merchant and pleasure vessels off the coast of Africa and the Sea of Hormuz? That doesn't say much about our navy, as well as the naval forces of other world powers, does it?
i think it's strait of hormuz, oman sea...at any rate, there's a lot of ocean out there. we don't have our fleet out there at all times; that would be impossible.
typically a ship does a six month cruise in a 3 year period. they have shorter times at sea at other times. but saltwater and time at sea is hard on a ship-they have to re-fit, perform maintenance, and of course you have to take the sailors into consideration.
so, take the number of ships and do the math to see how often a portion is at sea. also consider that a part of that number is assigned to a carrier to form a battle group-they sail when she sails. that group in turn is part of a fleet-the fifth in bahrain for example. and of course part of each fleet is submarines.
so, take that number, and then look at the sheer amount of water to be covered. it's a difficult task. we're spread thin, with plenty of places we have to patrol.
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i think it's strait of hormuz, oman sea...at any rate, there's a lot of ocean out there. we don't have our fleet out there at all times; that would be impossible.
typically a ship does a six month cruise in a 3 year period. they have shorter times at sea at other times. but saltwater and time at sea is hard on a ship-they have to re-fit, perform maintenance, and of course you have to take the sailors into consideration.
so, take the number of ships and do the math to see how often a portion is at sea. also consider that a part of that number is assigned to a carrier to form a battle group-they sail when she sails. that group in turn is part of a fleet-the fifth in bahrain for example. and of course part of each fleet is submarines.
so, take that number, and then look at the sheer amount of water to be covered. it's a difficult task. we're spread thin, with plenty of places we have to patrol.
I copied sea of Hormuz from Riot. You know that she is always right.

The U.S. Navy either goes after pirates aggressively or it doesn't. I don't think it does. We don't need naval vessels to track suspected pirates; we can depend on our eyes in the sky to do that. It isn't like the pirates are taking over vessels and disappearing, as they are holding the vessels and crew captive for ransom, although in one instance they killed Americans as retaliation for a pirate receiving a lengthy prison sentence.

Who knows why we don't treat sea piracy as seriously as we should. Our government doesn't take our illegal immigration problem as seriously as it should either, so why should I expect it to devote the resources and personnel to a problem a world away.
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