Iowa Republican Straw Poll

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Riot

Finally! The completely non-binding, means nothing for convention delegates, hasn't-picked-the-president-since-the-last-century Iowa "Campaign for the Crazy" has arrived.

Four want to bomb Iraq as soon as they take the White House. One says that's crazy. Two are birthers. All are against a woman's right to choose. Four are against gay rights. Three say they've been chosen by a decidedly Christian God to run for President (two are gonna be pretty disappointed in her tomorrow night). All have "tax plans" that will raise your taxes markedly, but cut taxes on the wealthy. All want to take away your kids Medicare.

Choose your poison!

Edit: Ack, forgot Newt. Well, he can be "Srsly?"

iowa chose george bush in 2000 and 2004 and barak obama in 2008. 3 for 3 recently.

and 8/14 isn't all that bad when you have to go first.

obama was the insurgent candidate against the well funded clinton organization four years ago. she looked inevitable until iowa delivered.

how soon we forget.

i like iowa and new hampshire. they're completely unrepresentative but you can't have retail politics in big states. they're the only places you'll see anything close to a local election where the candidates have to actually go out and meet people.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

iowa chose george bush in 2000 and 2004 and barak obama in 2008. 3 for 3 recently.

and 8/14 isn't all that bad when you have to go first.

You're right. I'm thinking of the Ames Straw Poll (which chose, for example, Bachmann this year), not the Caucus.

i like iowa and new hampshire. they're completely unrepresentative but you can't have retail politics in big states. they're the only places you'll see anything close to a local election where the candidates have to actually go out and meet people.

Ditto. I'm thinking that Ron Paul and Santorum may be the big winners, with Romney third, and Bachmann, Perry and Gingrich out of it. Gringrich is already whining today about his loss.

Obama was really good at retail, as was Hillary and Palin. McCain was terrible. Romney is ... creepy. He just is weird, the way he tries to "interact". Paul and Bachmann play to their audience who views them as rock stars. Santorum has worked hard, and it's paying off in the last-minute "not Romney" panic, he's got his moment in the sun finally, and it's timed right. Gingrich has turned into the angry old man on the book tour who thought he was getting the big freebee he thinks he deserves, but it was taken away.

[Arletta]

Giddy up!

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...rse_race_.html

[bigrun]

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Arletta

Giddy up!

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...rse_race_.html

Outstanding!

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Arletta

Giddy up!

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...rse_race_.html

I gotta deuce on Mitt...

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by bigrun

I gotta deuce on Mitt...

i'd take santorum but i also liked saarland in the derby. it's a hopeless closer thing.

[hi_im_god]

intrade monday night:

romney 50.9
paul 27.1
santorum 21.8

[Riot]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

intrade monday night:

romney 50.9
paul 27.1
santorum 21.8

I wonder if Santorum (TM) will win this thing tonight?

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by bigrun

I gotta deuce on Mitt...

What he win by, 18 votes?....Did i win?,,,

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Riot

You're right. I'm thinking of the Ames Straw Poll (which chose, for example, Bachmann this year), not the Caucus.



Ditto. I'm thinking that Ron Paul and Santorum may be the big winners, with Romney third, and Bachmann, Perry and Gingrich out of it. Gringrich is already whining today about his loss.

Obama was really good at retail, as was Hillary and Palin. McCain was terrible. Romney is ... creepy. He just is weird, the way he tries to "interact". Paul and Bachmann play to their audience who views them as rock stars. Santorum has worked hard, and it's paying off in the last-minute "not Romney" panic, he's got his moment in the sun finally, and it's timed right. Gingrich has turned into the angry old man on the book tour who thought he was getting the big freebee he thinks he deserves, but it was taken away.

any votes for santorum or paul may as well be counted as romney votes. gingrich, flaws and all, was the only candidate that had any chance to derail the romney nomination.

santorum has no money or organization. paul has an enthusiastic base and i expect he'll be the last man standing since they've actually organized. but there's zero chance an anti-war candidate wins the republican nomination.