Matt Ice Flynn

[jms62]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Jets should go HARD for him.

Please research Rob Johnson to see How giving someone a big contract based on 1 game as a fillin starter can go horribly wrong.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by jms62

Please research Rob Johnson to see How giving someone a big contract based on 1 game as a fillin starter can go horribly wrong.

Ask Golfer if the guy can play. Sanchez is not an NFL QB.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Sanchez is not an NFL QB.

Is Tebow an NFL QB?

[horseofcourse]

I remember a guy once named Kelly Ice Holcomb...threw for 400 plus in a playoff game against Steelers. Permanent solution. Wait, wrong thread.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

I remember a guy once named Kelly Ice Holcomb...threw for 400 plus in a playoff game against Steelers. Permanent solution. Wait, wrong thread.

****ing Bills paid that clown too.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Is Tebow an NFL QB?

Im not sure anymore, but with the talent he would have around him in NY I would take Tebow over Sanchez all day. Hes more of a leader and can move around. What exactly does Sanchez do well? I cant name one thing.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Im not sure anymore, but with the talent he would have around him in NY I would take Tebow over Sanchez all day. Hes more of a leader and can move around. What exactly does Sanchez do well? I cant name one thing.

Oh...not sure anymore. Interesting.

When Sanchez is on (which wasn't much this season) he's an excellent game manager. He has the ability to throw (much, much better than Tebow) although the current coaching staff hasn't allowed it. 5 and 6 yard routes with a legitimate deep threat in Santonio Holmes isn't going to cut it.

This season was doomed from the start for the Jets. It didn't seem like they were an actual team ever. Who is to blame for that? A lot of people and it should start with Tannenbaum and Rex Ryan. Let the sh.it roll down from there. But when your on field leader is your coach....never a good thing. Someone needed to step up and no one did.

[Danzig]

i think the jets' woes have far more to do with coaching than anything. sanchez will be there longer than rex imo. i think sanchez can be a good qb-but his line doesn't seem to help him much from what i've seen. prima donna wr's don't help either. where was the 'c' yesterday when they needed him? on the bench, sulking.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Im not sure anymore, but with the talent he would have around him in NY I would take Tebow over Sanchez all day. Hes more of a leader and can move around. What exactly does Sanchez do well? I cant name one thing.

Does the offensive line count in the talent category? Because it sure seems like Timmy has a lot of time to throw back there. The running lanes for Timmy and the RB's were pretty good too.

[golfer]

There are many things not to like about Sanchez this season. The ONLY thing I can write in his defense is that when you get hit as often and as hard as he did this year, it takes it's toll. No quarterback is successfull when getting slammed around, including Brady.

The Jets were built to win THIS year, what they did on the field was pretty disgraceful. They will have much work to do in the off-season. I will say as of today, next year's schedule is'nt that bad. But of course that opinion can change dramatically.

Football season is over, it's on to HOCKEY!

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by golfer

I will say as of today, next year's schedule is'nt that bad.

Is next year the year the AFC East plays the NFC West?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Does the offensive line count in the talent category? Because it sure seems like Timmy has a lot of time to throw back there. The running lanes for Timmy and the RB's were pretty good too.

He has not 1 relevant skill position player, the WR Thomas would be a nice 3 on most teams with a lot of upside. He is there 1.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

He has not 1 relevant skill position player, the WR Thomas would be a nice 3 on most teams with a lot of upside. He is there 1.

If you do not have time to throw the ball, it wouldn't matter if you had Jerry Rice, Michael Irvin and Lynn Swann as your recievers.

[Dahoss]

Willis McGahee is alright. He's not Barry Sanders, but it could be a lot worse.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

He has not 1 relevant skill position player, the WR Thomas would be a nice 3 on most teams with a lot of upside. He is there 1.

Thomas looks like a 3 because Tebow throws the ball like Nuke LaLoosh. If he had Brady or Rogers throwing to him he would have 1200 yds. and double digit TD's.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by jms62

Please research Rob Johnson to see How giving someone a big contract based on 1 game as a fillin starter can go horribly wrong.

Good one. I have no clue how good Matt Flynn can or will be, but as you say basing something on one game can absolutlely go horribly wrong. There's a huge difference in being "the" guy and the backup, I remember Holcomb who looked incredible going in for a game or two but when given the job showed everyone why he was a career backup. I think Kolb was Matt Flynn last year, he didn't exactly set the world on fire before his injury and was no better than John Skelton at all for AZ. There were even whispers this year Vince Young should be the Eagles starter by some (Skip Bayless!) when he went into game 1 in NY and beat the Giants...then he kept playing more games!!

[MaTH716]

Besides Rodgers, I'm not sure who else didn't play for the Packers. Take nothing away from him, he did a great job. But for the most part Flynn was still driving a Ferrarri type offense. I think a lot of times guys get contracts (other places) based off these performances and get stuck driving ang struggling with Toyota type offenses.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Besides Rodgers, I'm not sure who else didn't play for the Packers. Take nothing away from him, he did a great job. But for the most part Flynn was still driving a Ferrarri type offense. I think a lot of times guys get contracts (other places) based off these performances and get stuck driving ang struggling with Toyota type offenses.

Starting WR (Jennings), Starting RB (Starks), two starting O-Linemen and 5 starters on D (not that that affected Flynn at all)

Obviously it was a once in a lifetime performace, but Flynn has been getting accolades from guys for several years about what he does in camp and during practices. And I still think his start aganist the Pats on the road LY was more impressive than Sunday. Stat wise, no, but that was a much tougher situation he was thrown into on the road in NE. No QB can make a talentless team a playoff team, but in the right situation..hello Jets, Hello Dallas.. I think he would be an upgrade.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Starting WR (Jennings), Starting RB (Starks), two starting O-Linemen and 5 starters on D (not that that affected Flynn at all)

Obviously it was a once in a lifetime performace, but Flynn has been getting accolades from guys for several years about what he does in camp and during practices. And I still think his start aganist the Pats on the road LY was more impressive than Sunday. Stat wise, no, but that was a much tougher situation he was thrown into on the road in NE. No QB can make a talentless team a playoff team, but in the right situation..hello Jets, Hello Dallas.. I think he would be an upgrade.

I personally don't think those teams are/should be addressing the QB situation.

I think of teams like Washington, Jacksonville, Miami and dare I say Denver who could use an immediate upgrade.

[GBBob]

As an aside..I didn't know Romo wil be 33 next season