Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Main Forum > The Paddock
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12-27-2011, 07:47 AM
MisterB's Avatar
MisterB MisterB is offline
Woodbine
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Saratoga
Posts: 1,040
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by helicopter11 View Post
Maragh is notorious for riding all over the place.
He reminds me of the taxi cab drivers in the Phillippines. 8-9path to the 2 and 3 path in 2 seconds. Only person who should be pissed is Stanley Gold for the great ride he got.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 12-27-2011, 10:42 AM
Dahoss Dahoss is offline
Keeneland
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 10,293
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterB View Post
Only person who should be pissed is Stanley Gold for the great ride he got.
The ride he got yesterday was miles better than the one the horse got in his previous race. But don't we as bettors have a right to be mad when we get screwed like this?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12-27-2011, 11:10 AM
MisterB's Avatar
MisterB MisterB is offline
Woodbine
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Saratoga
Posts: 1,040
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dahoss View Post
The ride he got yesterday was miles better than the one the horse got in his previous race. But don't we as bettors have a right to be mad when we get screwed like this?
He is reckless and doesn't care about what he could have done to others in the race. This was a warning shot across his bow. He cost Animal Kingdom and could have injured many more with his profound bull ring riding antics. His reputation precedes him. I have been mad as hell with many calls too. You never hear a peep though when it goes the other way. You live and die with what we get, some good, some bad.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12-27-2011, 11:13 AM
MaTH716's Avatar
MaTH716 MaTH716 is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Jersey
Posts: 11,438
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterB View Post
He is reckless and doesn't care about what he could have done to others in the race. This was a warning shot across his bow. He cost Animal Kingdom and could have injured many more with his profound bull ring riding antics. His reputation precedes him. I have been mad as hell with many calls too. You never hear a peep though when it goes the other way. You live and die with what we get, some good, some bad.
But why punish the bettors? Couldn't they just give him days and leave the horse up?
__________________
Felix Unger talking to Oscar Madison: "Your horse could finish third by 20 lengths and they still pay you? And you have been losing money for all these years?!"
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-27-2011, 11:28 AM
MisterB's Avatar
MisterB MisterB is offline
Woodbine
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Saratoga
Posts: 1,040
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MaTH716 View Post
But why punish the bettors? Couldn't they just give him days and leave the horse up?
That's what I say too when it works against me, blame the stewards. As players we suck it up and move on. What other choice do we have--none. I am sure there was a nice old lady who hit.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 12-27-2011, 11:37 AM
Dahoss Dahoss is offline
Keeneland
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 10,293
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterB View Post
That's what I say too when it works against me, blame the stewards. As players we suck it up and move on. What other choice do we have--none. I am sure there was a nice old lady who hit.
Something tells me your opinion on this might be a little different if Liquidity Trap was the one DQ'd. Don't think you'd be so quick to "suck it up" had that happened.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 12-27-2011, 11:54 AM
MisterB's Avatar
MisterB MisterB is offline
Woodbine
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Saratoga
Posts: 1,040
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dahoss View Post
Something tells me your opinion on this might be a little different if Liquidity Trap was the one DQ'd. Don't think you'd be so quick to "suck it up" had that happened.
I been down the road on many DQ's, I don't get all wrapped up in it like others do. If you play, you know what can happen. Nice try to derail the topic though. In fact, I didn't play the race.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 12-27-2011, 11:29 AM
Dahoss Dahoss is offline
Keeneland
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 10,293
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MaTH716 View Post
But why punish the bettors? Couldn't they just give him days and leave the horse up?
This would be an appropriate penalty IMO, but if you see the head on, I don't even think he deserves days.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12-27-2011, 11:43 AM
3kings's Avatar
3kings 3kings is offline
Oriental Park
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,495
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterB View Post
He is reckless and doesn't care about what he could have done to others in the race. This was a warning shot across his bow. He cost Animal Kingdom and could have injured many more with his profound bull ring riding antics. His reputation precedes him. I have been mad as hell with many calls too. You never hear a peep though when it goes the other way. You live and die with what we get, some good, some bad.
Would you feel the same way if your son hadn't recieved a better placing?
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 12-27-2011, 11:58 AM
MisterB's Avatar
MisterB MisterB is offline
Woodbine
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Saratoga
Posts: 1,040
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 3kings View Post
Would you feel the same way if your son hadn't recieved a better placing?
I don't think it mattered to him, he didn't win the race, or was he going to. My son has nothing to do with placing, and he has walked away from some pretty bad calls. This is about a jockey who rides like a cowboy, and is going to get somebody hurt, but you and others don't care about that I see.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 12-27-2011, 12:02 PM
3kings's Avatar
3kings 3kings is offline
Oriental Park
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,495
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterB View Post
I don't think it mattered to him, he didn't win the race, or was he going to. My son has nothing to do with placing, and he has walked away from some pretty bad calls. This is about a jockey who rides like a cowboy, and is going to get somebody hurt, but you and others don't care about that I see.
I agree about the jockey. I too did not have a wager on the outcome but this was a horrible takedown. The bettors were screwed by punishing the jockey, there has to be a better way. Leave the horse up, fine the jockey his portion of the purse plus $5000. And suspend him.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 12-27-2011, 12:07 PM
MisterB's Avatar
MisterB MisterB is offline
Woodbine
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Saratoga
Posts: 1,040
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 3kings View Post
I agree about the jockey. I too did not have a wager on the outcome but this was a horrible takedown. The bettors were screwed by punishing the jockey, there has to be a better way. Leave the horse up, fine the jockey his portion of the purse plus $5000. And suspend him.
I can agree to that, the best horse got the shaft, and the public payed the price. But we all know this kind of thing happens in racing, everywhere. But we keep going back for more don't we.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:13 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.