Kim Jong ll dead

[Honu]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...-to-north-kore

That was nice of him.

Ooops I guess it wasnt politicaly correct for the Times to post the story because now the story has been removed.
Former President Carter wrote a letter to the dearly departed's son wishing him luck in his new role as leader.



Former President Jimmy Carter has sent North Korea a message of condolence over the death of Kim Jong-il and wished “every success” to the son expected to take over as dictator, according to the communist country's state-run news agency.

A dispatch from the Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) said Mr. Carter sent the message to Kim Jong-un, Kim Jong-il’s third son and heir apparent.

“In the message, Jimmy Carter extended condolences to Kim Jong-un and the Korean people over the demise of leader Kim Jong-il. He wished Kim Jong-un every success as he assumes his new responsibility of leadership, looking forward to another visit to [North Korea] in the future,” the KCNA dispatch read.

When contacted by The Washington Times for comment and to confirm the accuracy of KCNA’s account, the Carter Center provided an e-mail contact for a spokeswoman who is out of the office until after the New Year.

An e-mail message to her assistant was not immediately returned.

Mr. Carter has visited North Korea twice, including a 1994 visit for talks that led to a deal in which North Korea agreed to dismantle its nuclear-weapons program in exchange for oil and the construction of two nuclear reactors. That deal collapsed in 2002.

The former U.S. president has downplayed a 2010 North Korean attack on a South Korean island and the disclosure of a uranium-enrichment facility, saying the acts were merely “designed to remind the world that they deserve respect in negotiations that will shape their future.”

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Honu

Ooops I guess it wasnt politicaly correct for the Times to post the story because now the story has been removed.

Probably removed more because the only "original source" on the story is Fox News, and the story is completely unverified. AP picked it up verbatim from Fox.

Fox probably has special access to North Korean radio and TV that nobody else has.

This is the Korean News Agency page http://www.kcna.co.jp/index-e.htm and the story is there (with all the other condolences stories). Unfortunately, the KNA isn't known for accuracy.

So without the verification from the other side (this would - should - never be done without US State Dept permission, as former Pres often serve as proxies) ... no story until so.

calendar>>December 21. 2011 Juch 100
Condolences to Kim Jong Un from Former U.S. President

Pyongyang, December 21 (KCNA) -- Kim Jong Un, vice-chairman of the Central Military Commission of the Workers' Party of Korea, received a message of condolences from Jimmy Carter, ex-president of the U.S. on Dec. 19.

In the message Jimmy Carter extended condolences to Kim Jong Un and the Korean people over the demise of leader Kim Jong Il.

He wished Kim Jong Un every success as he assumes his new responsibility of leadership, looking forward to another visit to the DPRK in the future.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by Riot

Probably removed more because the only "original source" on the story is Fox News, and the story is completely unverified. AP picked it up verbatim from Fox.

Fox probably has special access to North Korean radio and TV that nobody else has.

This is the Korean News Agency page http://www.kcna.co.jp/index-e.htm and the story is there (with all the other condolences stories). Unfortunately, the KNA isn't known for accuracy.

So without the verification from the other side (this would - should - never be done without US State Dept permission, as former Pres often serve as proxies) ... no story until so.

Whew, Im glad you cleared that up, glad he isnt that big of a jackwagon.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Honu

Whew, Im glad you cleared that up, glad he isnt that big of a jackwagon.

Didn't say that, but don't let that keep you from your assumptions

[Honu]

Originally Posted by Riot

Didn't say that, but don't let that keep you from your assumptions

Your the one who said it wasnt a story, all I said was that I was glad it was cleared up. Why are you so snide? A person cant even respond to things you type without you being defensive, I was being sincere and you are just well...being yourself I guess.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Honu

Your the one who said it wasnt a story, all I said was that I was glad it was cleared up. Why are you so snide?

Just responding to you as you treat me.

It would be a terrific story if it is found out Carter went outside the current administration to send condolences. Have you bothered to check for updates? Or are you just going to stick with, "he did it, he's a jackwagon"? based upon the word of the North Koreans and Faux News?

[Honu]

Originally Posted by Riot

Just responding to you as you treat me.

It would be a terrific story if it is found out Carter went outside the current administration to send condolences. Have you bothered to check for updates?

Yep looked off and on last nite and again this morning. All there is is the original Times story that has been removed a report on Fox that I havent even read because I dont do mainstream media and a bunch of blog sites.

[SOREHOOF]

Just going by the title, I thought this was going to be a happy thread! At least he wasn't "Our Tyrant".

[Danzig]

http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news...espots-funeral


well, that explains all the weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth. once again, have to say i'm glad i am where i am!!

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news...espots-funeral


well, that explains all the weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth. once again, have to say i'm glad i am where i am!!

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/28/bo...pagewanted=all

ditto being glad i'm where i am but i think this is a more nuanced view.

it's a society lost in it's own strange belief system.

Most of the mourners worked for the father.