12/17-18 (HOL): CashCall Futurity (G1); On Trust

[Calzone Lord]

Liason just held.

A pretty nice Maiden finished 3rd. That maiden is now multiple Graded Stakes placed.

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Liason just held.

A pretty nice Maiden finished 3rd. That maiden is now multiple Graded Stakes placed.

Nationalore part deux.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

Nationalore part deux.

In a bizarre coincidence, NATIONALORE is the Brisnet 'Horse of the Day'...

(I didn't know they had a Horse of the Day, but Nationalore happens to be it. Link takes you to his career PP's.)

[asudevil]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Liason just held.

A pretty nice Maiden finished 3rd. That maiden is now multiple Graded Stakes placed.

I'll take it....

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by asudevil

I'll take it....

I thought he ran big. Better than his margin of victory would indicate anyways.

[asudevil]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I thought he ran big. Better than his margin of victory would indicate anyways.

I've liked this horse from early on at Del Mar. I think he will get even better with more ground. Hopefully Baff puts him away for a while.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I thought he ran big. Better than his margin of victory would indicate anyways.

How so? No unbiased person could hold your opinion. He couldn't have had an easier trip and again almost got run down by a complete mediocrity. . . I don't get this horse at all. The Cali 2-year-olds going long are pretty horrendous at this point.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

How so? No unbiased person could hold your opinion. He couldn't have had an easier trip and again almost got run down by a complete mediocrity. . . I don't get this horse at all. The Cali 2-year-olds going long are pretty horrendous at this point.

While the trip might have been free of any real trouble, I did like how he was able to sit behind a wall of horses and not 'lose it'. He ran professionally, which to me is pretty important, because he's been a noticeably green runner up till now.

Primarily, however, I don't think he's a synthetic surface runner.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

How so? No unbiased person could hold your opinion. He couldn't have had an easier trip and again almost got run down by a complete mediocrity. . . I don't get this horse at all. The Cali 2-year-olds going long are pretty horrendous at this point.

Relax. He was closer to the pace then he had to be and made his move a bit early. I liked him coming in because of his running style, coming way out of it. I thought he ran fine. I think hes better then Pioneer of the Nile was at this point. I know everyone will laugh at that but Pioneer of the Nile won a major derby prep and was second in the Derby. The thing about Liason is I think he really wants to dirt. We wont get to see if thats the case for a while though. What is there not to get about him at this point? I dont get what you dont get? Who has really stood out at this point? Union Rags has issues running straight, the Juvy winner I dont believe is much horse.... Who is there?

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Relax. He was closer to the pace then he had to be and made his move a bit early. I liked him coming in because of his running style, coming way out of it. I thought he ran fine.

I know much has been made about Liaison not "acting" like a typical Indian Charlie, and but when it is all said and done, this horse has never been more than 3 lengths back at the first point of call aside from his green and Polytrack-tainted debut.

He's shown some grit, but he's also shown some vulnerability inside the 1/16th pole in his last two.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

I know much has been made about Liaison not "acting" like a typical Indian Charlie, and but when it is all said and done, this horse has never been more than 3 lengths back at the first point of call aside from his green and Polytrack-tainted debut.

He's shown some grit, but he's also shown some vulnerability inside the 1/16th pole in his last two.

Well, if you count his second start, in which he was more than three back, then he's been more than three back at the first call in half of his starts.

But yeah, I think as he gets more experience, he's just learning to run.

From what I've seen from the rest of this crop, thus far, it's pretty hard to find major fault with Liaison.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Relax. He was closer to the pace then he had to be and made his move a bit early. I liked him coming in because of his running style, coming way out of it. I thought he ran fine. I think hes better then Pioneer of the Nile was at this point. I know everyone will laugh at that but Pioneer of the Nile won a major derby prep and was second in the Derby. The thing about Liason is I think he really wants to dirt. We wont get to see if thats the case for a while though. What is there not to get about him at this point? I dont get what you dont get? Who has really stood out at this point? Union Rags has issues running straight, the Juvy winner I dont believe is much horse.... Who is there?

Dude.

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I love Sky Kingdom in here, love him. A little Blingo to backup.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Dude.

I meant in general, not for this race. Check out the thread after he won his last race. I bet Sky Kingdom to win, boxed him and Blingo and was live for $3 in the pick 3 to either of them. It was paying pretty decent. You can like a horse in general or moving forward but not like him in a certain spot, right? The beyer comes back a 90, really giving no one a reasson to bash the horse. The number is legit enough.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

How so? No unbiased person could hold your opinion. He couldn't have had an easier trip and again almost got run down by a complete mediocrity. . . I don't get this horse at all. The Cali 2-year-olds going long are pretty horrendous at this point.

I don't really get him either. He got a nice ride and fell into a great trip. You can't fault him for it, but it's also worth mentioning when talking about the race he ran and margin of victory.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Liason just held.

A pretty nice Maiden finished 3rd. That maiden is now multiple Graded Stakes placed.

Liaison faded late.

Brother Francis needed to run off the board to have any semblance of a normal career (ie another shot at maiden special weight company) for the next 6 months.

I eagerly await his return to straight maidens, say in late March or April, where I will be looking to bottom wheel or toss outright.

[iamthelurker]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Liason just held.

A pretty nice Maiden finished 3rd. That maiden is now multiple Graded Stakes placed.

Espinoza also dropped his stick on him at the 1/16th pole. Seemed like his run kind of stopped after he quit getting hit.