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Old 12-10-2011, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Danzig
people have to have id's to drive, to get utilities connected, to have a job, to sign for a refinance on a home loan (i know because i just did it last night) to get a med check for life insurance ( just went thru that today) to get benefits...for myriad reasons. voting is a right, but i'd think it's also something that people want to make sure is done correctly, is valid, isn't fraudulent. making this voter id law to be some sort of nefarious scheme imo is absolutely ridiculous.
but then, i guess when someone is biased and believes that one party is the ultimate evil and is all that's wrong with the world, then they're going to paint anything supported by said party as shady at best.
First, the ability to vote is enshrined for all citizens in the Constitution, and has nothing at all do with what you need to do different other things: drive, to cash a check at your bank, get life insurance, get a home loan. None of those things is a constitutional right like voting is. So they cannot be compared.

You do not have to be able to drive, get a home loan, have insurance, get a mortgage, to be able to vote if you are a citizen of the United States. If you are a citizen of the US, you still have the right to vote even if you are homeless and unemployed, can't drive and don't have a bank account.

The only requirement for voting in the United States of America is that you are a citizen over the age of 18.

Secondly: well, no, 'Zig. Republicans came in, in 2010, and suddenly said stricter voting requirements have to be implemented to "prevent voter fraud". Except there are not massive instances of documented "voter fraud". They do not have any examples of that, that can be prevented by starting a voter ID card program.

Their premise and reason is an outright lie in the first place. And the truth is that the laws they are indeed impacting people that tend to vote Democratic. Those are simply facts.

When you hear hoofbeats in the United States, you think horses. Not zebras.

I find it amazing that the party that thoroughly embraced false and ridiculous information about ACORN, resulting in defunding and ending the organization in Congress for what turned out to be lies, blandly denies any possible untoward actions by their trying to implement ALEC advised laws.
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