Lakers trade

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I actually like Mark Cuban but what he says here looks a little silly based on reports they are close to signing Vince Carter. Vince Carter?

I dont think Vinsanity is commanding much dough at this point. Cuban is bitter because he knows his team is one and done and there isnt much he can do about it.

[Cannon Shell]

David Stern has gotten blown up a lot lately but this one might be the harshest

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slu...rn_veto_120911

[Cannon Shell]

Dan Gilbert!

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/73...gilbert-letter

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Dan Gilbert!

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/73...gilbert-letter

I think Dan is just jealous teams are now starting to do what he should have, trade your superstar before he leaves for nothing. Anthony, Deron Williams, Paul. It's also a case of you have a buffoon so keep making him a buffoon for the league and EVPN to keep pumping up LeBron, witness his recent interview there. I think to insinuate this letter by Gilbert is the main reason this trade was turned back is pretty convenient and shoddy reporting.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

I think Dan is just jealous teams are now starting to do what he should have, trade your superstar before he leaves for nothing. Anthony, Deron Williams, Paul. It's also a case of you have a buffoon so keep making him a buffoon for the league and EVPN to keep pumping up LeBron, witness his recent interview there. I think to insinuate this letter by Gilbert is the main reason this trade was turned back is pretty convenient and shoddy reporting.

I'm sure you are right. However, how exactly has that worked out for those teams?

You never really get close to fair value. You get average players and stuck in the middle of the league going nowhere. Cleveland will be better for not trading Lebron. What exactly were they going to get from Miami?

[geeker2]

Looks like Paul will be playing at Staples Center anyway !


http://content.usatoday.com/communit...the-clippers/1

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

I'm sure you are right. However, how exactly has that worked out for those teams?

You never really get close to fair value. You get average players and stuck in the middle of the league going nowhere. Cleveland will be better for not trading Lebron. What exactly were they going to get from Miami?

Cleveland did technically trade LeBron to Miami. The deal was a sign and trade which gave Cleveland 2 future number 1's (between 2013-2017) and 2 future number 2's. Of course with Miami pretty much assured of selecting in the late 20's and 50's those pics arent really that valuable. Plus Cleveland got a big 1 year trade exception (cap room) which was worthless since no one wants to play for Cleveland.

You dont get fair market value because everybody knows you have no leverage but look at what Utah got for Williams. Getting something is better than getting nothing.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I dont think Vinsanity is commanding much dough at this point. Cuban is bitter because he knows his team is one and done and there isnt much he can do about it.

True, but whatever money they are using to sign him could have been used in an effort to keep Chandler or even Barea, who was a real difference maker in the playoffs. No one had an answer for him.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

True, but whatever money they are using to sign him could have been used in an effort to keep Chandler or even Barea, who was a real difference maker in the playoffs. No one had an answer for him.

I dont think they could resign Chandler w/o serious luxury tax issues. He supposedly got 15 million a year for 4. Barea is now overvalued at 6 or 7 million a year. That is more or less what Cuban was complaining about, he couldnt just go over the cap and pay the luxury tax on these guys like he nomally would because the new deal cripples teams too far over.

I'm guessing Carter comes in at something like 2.5 million a year (I guess they are calling it the mini-exception?). Hard to believe but he is more or less playing the DeShawn Stevenson role now...with less defensive intensity and no beard.

[Cannon Shell]

David West in a sign and trade to Boston supposedly. Corpses coming back to NO. Lets see what Dan Gilbert says about this.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

David West in a sign and trade to Boston supposedly. Corpses coming back to NO. Lets see what Dan Gilbert says about this.

Those are exactly the type of trades the Hornets need to make! Blow the motha up...LOL.

[King Glorious]

Tyson Chandler was offered one year at $20 million by Dallas. No way would I have come close to offering what he wanted for multiple years if I'm Dallas.