Lakers trade

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

And when you got the lottery balls you'd get the chance to overpay young, unproven players. In the grand scheme of things how many contracts are actually good investments...5% maybe?

They aren't as a whole, but the ones that are usually are younger guys under the rookie scale. Maybe it is just me, but give me young, unproven guys over proven guys that win nothing every single time.

As I said before, being mediocre in the NBA gets you nothing but more mediocrity. It has been going on for decades. Teams get good by spending on superstars (good ones) or getting lucky in the draft. You don't get lucking drafting 15th.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

They aren't as a whole, but the ones that are usually are younger guys under the rookie scale. Maybe it is just me, but give me young, unproven guys over proven guys that win nothing every single time.

As I said before, being mediocre in the NBA gets you nothing but more mediocrity. It has been going on for decades. Teams get good by spending on superstars (good ones) or getting lucky in the draft. You don't get lucking drafting 15th.

I just think if they are interested in actually marketing the team to a potential owner, you can do it easier with a guy like Odom in place. He's not a superstar, but certainly all star quality type guy who is capable of playing multiple positions. Yes, Scola and Martin aren't exactly exciting, but serviceable and better than what they have now minus Ariza. Plus, they were getting a first round pick in the process.

I can't see someone taking a plunge on this team based on hoping they get lucky in the draft which is what you are proposing. You can minimize your losses by making the trade and begin to look to the future now, instead of wasting a year with a team that will be gone in a year. At the very least Odom would give them a bargaining chip in the draft or in any trades they try and make.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I just think if they are interested in actually marketing the team to a potential owner, you can do it easier with a guy like Odom in place. He's not a superstar, but certainly all star quality type guy who is capable of playing multiple positions. Yes, Scola and Martin aren't exactly exciting, but serviceable and better than what they have now minus Ariza. Plus, they were getting a first round pick in the process.

I can't see someone taking a plunge on this team based on hoping they get lucky in the draft which is what you are proposing. You can minimize your losses by making the trade and begin to look to the future now, instead of wasting a year with a team that will be gone in a year. At the very least Odom would give them a bargaining chip in the draft or in any trades they try and make.

Luis Scola and Kevin Martin are far better NBA players than Ariza ever thought about being.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I just think if they are interested in actually marketing the team to a potential owner, you can do it easier with a guy like Odom in place. He's not a superstar, but certainly all star quality type guy who is capable of playing multiple positions. Yes, Scola and Martin aren't exactly exciting, but serviceable and better than what they have now minus Ariza. Plus, they were getting a first round pick in the process.

I can't see someone taking a plunge on this team based on hoping they get lucky in the draft which is what you are proposing. You can minimize your losses by making the trade and begin to look to the future now, instead of wasting a year with a team that will be gone in a year. At the very least Odom would give them a bargaining chip in the draft or in any trades they try and make.

I don't really disagree, except that I know as an owner I'd rather buy a bad team than a mediocre one, blow it up and start over. It is tough to start over taking on guys like Martin and particularly Scola. Odom is a one year deal and Dragic doesn't make much, so those two are fine.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

I don't really disagree, except that I know as an owner I'd rather buy a bad team than a mediocre one, blow it up and start over. It is tough to start over taking on guys like Martin and particularly Scola. Odom is a one year deal and Dragic doesn't make much, so those two are fine.

Just to be clear, I think the trade should have been allowed. I'm just trying to show there is another side of it.

[King Glorious]

New Orleans would have been better this year than last. Scola, Martin, and Odom are all solid NBA players. Maybe not all stars but guys that in any given night can give you an all-star performance. Guys that can give you 18-8 or 23 a night or be triple-double threats don't grow on trees.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

New Orleans would have been better this year than last. Scola, Martin, and Odom are all solid NBA players. Maybe not all stars but guys that in any given night can give you an all-star performance. Guys that can give you 18-8 or 23 a night or be triple-double threats don't grow on trees.

No way in hell is this team better off on the court without Paul and getting those guys. Paul is that good.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

No way in hell is this team better off on the court without Paul and getting those guys. Paul is that good.

Paul is a very good player but lets not forget he avg 16 points and 10 assists a game last year.