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Old 06-13-2006, 09:19 AM
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Based on speed figures, and since Afleet Alex didn't race after the Belmont that is all we have, it is far from clear that Afleet Alex was better than the Flower Alley we saw in Saratoga and the BC. While I tend to agree that had he stayed healthy, and logically progressed, Afleet Alex would have been the better of the two, but at best that margin would have been minimal.

Don't even bother attempting to use the Derby as an example, as not only did Flower Alley improve immensely off his Derby performance, he also ran exceptionally well in that race. He was forced to make a suicidal premature move when Chavez sent him into a drive on the backstretch and then got caught behind the tiring Spanish Chesnut. His performance was clearly an indication of good things to come.
Flower Alley was never the horse Afleet Alex was, and he will never be. Afleet Alex was going to be one of the best had he not been injured. We should be very thankful that we got to see flashes of his greatness on the track. This horse had the most impressive/insane late kick that I have ever seen in horse racing. His move in the Preakness before the incident with Scrappy T, and in the Belmont Stakes were legendary. I cannot remember a horse, and I don't think we will see one in a long time, that had that much of an intense late kick. It was as if he was shot out of a cannon. He could fly. I miss my Alex.

Afleet Alex-BCC champ 2005 by open lengths had he not been injured
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Old 06-13-2006, 10:25 AM
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Flower Alley was never the horse Afleet Alex was, and he will never be. Afleet Alex was going to be one of the best had he not been injured. We should be very thankful that we got to see flashes of his greatness on the track. This horse had the most impressive/insane late kick that I have ever seen in horse racing. His move in the Preakness before the incident with Scrappy T, and in the Belmont Stakes were legendary. I cannot remember a horse, and I don't think we will see one in a long time, that had that much of an intense late kick. It was as if he was shot out of a cannon. He could fly. I miss my Alex.

Afleet Alex-BCC champ 2005 by open lengths had he not been injured
What can I say, thats my girl....You couldn't have said it better..Afleet Alex had one of the best 1/2 - 3/8 of a mile kicks that I've ever seen...insane turn of foot from the far turn to the wire...His problems were chronic lung infections...he won the Belmont and Arky Derby with small lung infections and lost the Mountain Valley with a severe lung infection and lost the Derby with a significant lung infection...
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Old 06-13-2006, 10:31 AM
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What can I say, thats my girl....You couldn't have said it better..Afleet Alex had one of the best 1/2 - 3/8 of a mile kicks that I've ever seen...insane turn of foot from the far turn to the wire...His problems were chronic lung infections...he won the Belmont and Arky Derby with small lung infections and lost the Mountain Valley with a severe lung infection and lost the Derby with a significant lung infection...
I didn't know that about him. Funny Cide had a similar problem in the beginning stages of his career. I knew Alex had a lung infection in the Rebel, but I didn't know that it was a chronic problem. Alex is honestly my favorite horse of all time. I loved the horse after his Mountain Valley performance, but was sold on him when he won the Ark. His Preakness was amazing! He should have fallen, but he didn't. Simply amazing! It was one of the greatest feats in horse racing that I have ever seen.
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Old 06-13-2006, 10:44 AM
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I didn't know that about him. Funny Cide had a similar problem in the beginning stages of his career. I knew Alex had a lung infection in the Rebel, but I didn't know that it was a chronic problem. Alex is honestly my favorite horse of all time. I loved the horse after his Mountain Valley performance, but was sold on him when he won the Ark. His Preakness was amazing! He should have fallen, but he didn't. Simply amazing! It was one of the greatest feats in horse racing that I have ever seen.
By bad, I meant Rebel not Mountain Valley he had a severe lung infection....I misstated that..sorry
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Old 06-13-2006, 11:21 AM
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By bad, I meant Rebel not Mountain Valley he had a severe lung infection....I misstated that..sorry
That is okay. Now we are even
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Old 06-13-2006, 10:46 AM
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I didn't know that about him. Funny Cide had a similar problem in the beginning stages of his career. I knew Alex had a lung infection in the Rebel, but I didn't know that it was a chronic problem. Alex is honestly my favorite horse of all time. I loved the horse after his Mountain Valley performance, but was sold on him when he won the Ark. His Preakness was amazing! He should have fallen, but he didn't. Simply amazing! It was one of the greatest feats in horse racing that I have ever seen.
are you too good to be true?...Alex is definately one of my personal faves too...loved him
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Old 06-13-2006, 11:21 AM
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are you too good to be true?...Alex is definately one of my personal faves too...loved him
Now, who is trying to get who? lol

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Old 06-13-2006, 11:24 AM
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I'm really glad to see that this is the first five star post. There really is a lot of very valuable information in this thread, and it is really deep as far as knowledge and debate goes. I hope we can have many more threads like this in the future. If so, I am definitely hooked on Derbytrail.com!
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Old 06-13-2006, 11:53 AM
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I'm really glad to see that this is the first five star post. There really is a lot of very valuable information in this thread, and it is really deep as far as knowledge and debate goes. I hope we can have many more threads like this in the future. If so, I am definitely hooked on Derbytrail.com!
It was a very good thread. I hope Ministers Bid doesn't wind up being a bust though or I will have to erase part of the thread.
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