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Calzone Lord · #1 12-04-2011, 02:55 AM

It was a statebred race and he was bet off the board. There have been a lot of exciting maiden winners across the country the last few weeks who have got no buzz on any boards.

The Mike Stidham debuter at Fair Grounds from a week or so ago -- Table Three Ten or something like that -- she wasn't bet and was fucl<ing awesome. Great upside -- and with turf route breeding top and bottom. The Macho Rocket debut race was pretty good out West. That will be a productive race.

RockHardTen1985 · #2 12-04-2011, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

It was a statebred race and he was bet off the board. There have been a lot of exciting maiden winners across the country the last few weeks who have got no buzz on any boards.

The Mike Stidham debuter at Fair Grounds from a week or so ago -- Table Three Ten or something like that -- she wasn't bet and was fucl<ing awesome. Great upside -- and with turf route breeding top and bottom. The Macho Rocket debut race was pretty good out West. That will be a productive race.

The Gomez firster who won the last at Hollywood yesterday is that the horse you told me about over the summer? Same sire at least.

VOL JACK · #3 12-04-2011, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

It was a statebred race and he was bet off the board. There have been a lot of exciting maiden winners across the country the last few weeks who have got no buzz on any boards.

The Mike Stidham debuter at Fair Grounds from a week or so ago -- Table Three Ten or something like that -- she wasn't bet and was fucl<ing awesome. Great upside -- and with turf route breeding top and bottom. The Macho Rocket debut race was pretty good out West. That will be a productive race.

What about the Stidham 2nd timer that opened up at 1:5 at the FG Saturday (12-3) in the 6th race. I thought it was pretty weird. He end up going off at 4:5 and running a tiring 3rd.
The weird thing was, I was expecting the Asmussen full to Student Council to take all the beating. He went off as the 5:2 2nd choice and won.

hockey2315 · #4 12-04-2011, 03:23 PM

I hand-timed this race three times and here are the times I got: 1:04.03, 1:04.08 and 1:04.01. That's about 1.30 seconds off from what the track had--he got a 100 Beyer based on the incorrect time. The time was 6.5L off, which is 18 Beyer points at 5 1/2 furlongs. So he really ran an 82 if you keep the variant the same. . . assuming my math isn't off somewhere, which is entirely impossible. If they don't change it, that could be a pretty nice piece of info when he's 3-5 next out.

Calzone Lord · #5 12-04-2011, 06:41 PM

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I hand-timed this race three times and here are the times I got: 1:04.03, 1:04.08 and 1:04.01. That's about 1.30 seconds off from what the track had--he got a 100 Beyer based on the incorrect time. The time was 6.5L off, which is 18 Beyer points at 5 1/2 furlongs. So he really ran an 82 if you keep the variant the same. . . assuming my math isn't off somewhere, which is entirely impossible. If they don't change it, that could be a pretty nice piece of info when he's 3-5 next out.

Trackus had the race 1:02.33 and the offical timer had the race 1:02.34

There was a run-up of over 3 seconds.

hockey2315 · #6 12-04-2011, 06:54 PM

Duh. . . I'm stupid.

Calzone Lord · #7 12-04-2011, 09:45 PM

Don't be so hard on yourself.

Hopefully this debut winner from yesterday has a little more success than his half brother Travelin Man did when winning that type of race with that type of figure early in the GP meet last year.

hockey2315 · #8 12-04-2011, 10:56 PM

Well, he did finish second in a Grade II and then win another one. . . But I hear you--he fell apart pretty badly after that.

cmorioles · #9 12-05-2011, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Trackus had the race 1:02.33 and the offical timer had the race 1:02.34

There was a run-up of over 3 seconds.

Disappointing that Trakus doesn't give us time and distance from the gate, don't you think?

Danzig · #10 12-05-2011, 08:57 AM

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Disappointing that Trakus doesn't give us time and distance from the gate, don't you think?

i don't think so. all tracks use run up timers. trakus should be tied in to that.

cmorioles · #11 12-05-2011, 09:29 AM

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i don't think so. all tracks use run up timers. trakus should be tied in to that.

So basically we get the same data twice save a few hundredths.

blackthroatedwind · #12 12-04-2011, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

I hand-timed this race three times and here are the times I got: 1:04.03, 1:04.08 and 1:04.01. That's about 1.30 seconds off from what the track had--he got a 100 Beyer based on the incorrect time. The time was 6.5L off, which is 18 Beyer points at 5 1/2 furlongs. So he really ran an 82 if you keep the variant the same. . . assuming my math isn't off somewhere, which is entirely impossible. If they don't change it, that could be a pretty nice piece of info when he's 3-5 next out.

If you were right about the 1.3 seconds it was about 8 lengths, or 22 points at 5 1/2 furlongs....not that it matters, but since you were dumping on yourself already.....

hockey2315 · #13 12-05-2011, 12:12 AM

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If you were right about the 1.3 seconds it was about 8 lengths, or 22 points at 5 1/2 furlongs....not that it matters, but since you were dumping on yourself already.....

Isn't a length 1/5 of a second? Or is it .16? As you can see, I've never bothered to learn how to really make figures beyond the absolute basics--and I've never once even contemplated run-ups. I pretty much just trust the Beyers and spend my time on other places where I can find an edge. I'm barely aware of what a naked time for a given distance should be.

Calzone Lord · #14 12-05-2011, 12:34 AM

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Isn't a length 1/5 of a second? Or is it .16?

The old rule of thumb is that a length equals 1/5th of a second .... but to steal a line from Steve Davidowitz's book...."mathmatically speaking, a length should equal 1/5th of a second only when a horse travels a furlong in 15 seconds. The only horses who go that slow charge 10 cents a ride."

DaTruth · #15 12-11-2011, 01:00 AM

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The Mike Stidham debuter at Fair Grounds from a week or so ago -- Table Three Ten or something like that -- she wasn't bet and was fucl<ing awesome. Great upside -- and with turf route breeding top and bottom.

Table Three Ten was sold to Team Valor and sent to Motion.

RockHardTen1985 · #16 12-11-2011, 01:02 AM

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Table Three Ten was sold to Team Valor and sent to Motion.

Do you have the date this horse ran? I want to pull the chart.

DaTruth · #17 12-11-2011, 02:19 AM

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Do you have the date this horse ran? I want to pull the chart.

Friday, Nov. 25, 6th race.

Calzone Lord · #18 12-11-2011, 06:23 AM

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Table Three Ten was sold to Team Valor and sent to Motion.

I wonder what they paid for her?

She debuted great and has all the angles in the world going forward. If I was working for a syndicate like that - who wants to buy horses off of one race - I'd have been on the phone within 3 minutes after that race.