OWS Zucotti Park

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Originally Posted by DaTruth

OWS is not presenting a coherent message, and I suppose that is part of its charm to participants who feel they have an equal say in where OWS goes from here. But no organization can survive without any sort of hierarchy. Orders from the the generals at the top eventually make their way to the foot soldiers.

If OWS is a sustainable NATIONAL political movement, then you will see like-minded Democratic candidates in swing states embrace it next summer. Otherwise, it is going to be relegated to having influence in liberal districts and states. Remember, what plays in New York does not necessarily play in Little Rock. If OWS is viewed as a movement hijacked by liberal extremists, then don't count on independents siding with them over the Republicans.

You make valid points.

However, I think, as Antitrust has said, Occupy is clearly "not" a "liberal" movement, there are plenty of Libertarians (tons of Ron Paul supporters) along with Republicans, Dems, progressives, anarchists, etc. The vast majority are just average Americans - nurses, doctors, union workers, students, etc.

Regarding "the message" - the "message" has been very clear and coherent to anybody who has bothered to pay attention: our government has been corrupted by money, is owned by corporate interests, and the average voting American thus has little say in what happens any more, and has been very screwed over the past 40-50 years while the plutocracy has thrived. They want to change that.

I really don't see how anyone can miss this. The mainstream media has generally done a very poor job of presenting Occupy - but there is limitless factual information out there over the internet - anyone can get involved.

As far as "organization" or "government" of the Occupy movement, they have a very well-developed representative General Assembly process, they have close contacts between Occupies in different towns (Little Rock vs New York).

The paradigm of "one leader" being necessary is very successfully being refuted so far. You have to be willing to let go of the political labels of "Dem, Republican", etc.