Penn State

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

i doubt penn state is any kind of force in college football again in my lifetime.

i can't imagine recruiting will go too well for the next decade or so and i doubt many top coaches want to deal with the mess that's been left behind.

they should think about dropping football altogther. it's that or face beatdowns at the hands of powerhouse teams like purdue and northwestern into the forseeable future.

i was a penn state fan for as long as i can remember. was.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i was a penn state fan for as long as i can remember. was.

I have always been and will always be, the student athletes at PSU deserve no less!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

I have always been and will always be, the student athletes at PSU deserve no less!

i can no longer pull for a college who turned a blind eye to years of sexual assaults on children. who spoke for those victims all those years? no one. there were plenty who could have put a stop to it; they all chose not to.
i don't know at this point how anyone can turn out in support of the college. from the president down to a janitor, there was knowledge of monstrous acts-but there was a universal head in the sand approach to the whole thing.

student athletes have plenty of other choices of schools. i'd encourage them to go elsewhere.

the whole sordid tale disgusts me completely.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

I have always been and will always be, the student athletes at PSU deserve no less!

i've thought on this some more.

the kids who were raped and molested by that ****ed up monster will have to deal with that pain for the rest of their lives. this will haunt them forever. they won't constantly dwell on it, but it will always be there. things will conjure it up in their minds-whenever they see on the news that someone has been arrested for similar crimes, when they read about it, when people talk about it. this will have a lasting impact on them. their life, how they live it, the decisions they make, the person they marry, the children they raise. knowing the life expectancy of the average american male, they have upwards of 60 years or so of this crime to deal with.
i think that institution should suffer for just as many years. there is no more disgusting, vile, despicable act than the depravity that man inflicted on innocent children. those who averted their eyes and refused to see, or admit it, or turn him in because it was so hard to deal with-they never once thought of how hard it was for those who had to endure it. they share the blame, they should.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i've thought on this some more.

the kids who were raped and molested by that ****ed up monster will have to deal with that pain for the rest of their lives. this will haunt them forever. they won't constantly dwell on it, but it will always be there. things will conjure it up in their minds-whenever they see on the news that someone has been arrested for similar crimes, when they read about it, when people talk about it. this will have a lasting impact on them. their life, how they live it, the decisions they make, the person they marry, the children they raise. knowing the life expectancy of the average american male, they have upwards of 60 years or so of this crime to deal with.
i think that institution should suffer for just as many years. there is no more disgusting, vile, despicable act than the depravity that man inflicted on innocent children. those who averted their eyes and refused to see, or admit it, or turn him in because it was so hard to deal with-they never once thought of how hard it was for those who had to endure it. they share the blame, they should.

I respect your opinion and everything you say is true but even if you conclude Paterno, McQuery and a number of administrative types are guilty as Sandusky for these horrible crimes, that still leaves thousands of PSU students, both athletes and others, completely innocent. PSU will overcome this and rebuild their reputation as an excellent university and I support them. It's easy to say the athletes can go to another school but many kids have wanted to attend PSU all their lives and surely they aren't tainted by this horrible mess!

[Danzig]

my oldest talked about going there, i'm glad he didn't. i wouldn't want to admit i'd graduated from there after all this has come out, and i wouldn't want to go there in future. not if that's the type of guy they want to cater to, and allow use of their campus.
it's not the kids fault, but i wonder how many will go elsewhere? and who could blame them?

a reputation lost isn't easily regained, and in this case, it shouldn't be.

[clyde]

Danny....I think people get your view on the subject.




Is there a way you could shut up already?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by clyde

Danny....I think people get your view on the subject.




Is there a way you could shut up already?

there's an ignore feature; use it if you feel the need.


i do apologize tho, if i've caused you any discomfort. no doubt you just want all of this to just go away, so you won't have to feel bad any more. after all, we wouldn't want people to discuss such painful things, and make people think about stuff like this, right? we should all just pretend it's nothing to worry about, and just let every one get over it already.