11/12-13 (HOL): Real Quiet S. & Sharp Cat S.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

They should use that in his future stallion advertisement.

"Owners, send your mares to Liaison. He was like Anthony's Cross, but with much more potential."

Anthony's Cross was facing much better horses in his maiden races than Liaison did, with similar results.

Baffert seems pretty light on 2yos. The spotty Drill looks to be heading down the same punishing road as Officer for failing to fire in the BC. Secret Circle appears to need a lot of work to harness his speed if he's going to be effective going longer. The Coolmore horse never came around. What happened to Gun Boat?

[RolloTomasi]

Race 5 on the Saturday HP card might have implications for the Malibu in late December at Santa Anita.

Clear, Fast Bullet, and Industry Leader all look to have some talent. Clear murdered decent Cal-bred maidens at Del Mar in his only start. Fast Bullet was well-backed in that Jimmy V. Stakes at CD last week until he was scratched at the gate. Industry Leader came undone over the winter last season at 2, but his first two races were strong and he's working like a freight train for his return.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Anthony's Cross was facing much better horses in his maiden races than Liaison did, with similar results.

Baffert seems pretty light on 2yos. The spotty Drill looks to be heading down the same punishing road as Officer for failing to fire in the BC. Secret Circle appears to need a lot of work to harness his speed if he's going to be effective going longer. The Coolmore horse never came around. What happened to Gun Boat?

Secret Circle is a potential super horse. Cant we give him an excuse for drifting out after dueling 3 way through a sub 21 quarter? Plus he was ridden hard from the gate, its not like the horse took off on the jockey. Im not sure why he was gunned so hard, but he was. 2 back he rated kindly. Its not like we have to say If Secret Circle can rate. Hes already done it. I think Drill has proven he is not much horse, and he likes the synthetic surfaces better, plus he might just be a sprinter. Other then Secret Circle and Liaison Baffert does not have much. All you need is 1 though, and I think Secret Circle might be that good.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Secret Circle is a potential super horse. Cant we give him an excuse for drifting out after dueling 3 way through a sub 21 quarter? Plus he was ridden hard from the gate, its not like the horse took off on the jockey. Im not sure why he was gunned so hard, but he was. 2 back he rated kindly. Its not like we have to say If Secret Circle can rate. Hes already done it. I think Drill has proven he is not much horse, and he likes the synthetic surfaces better, plus he might just be a sprinter. Other then Secret Circle and Liaison Baffert does not have much. All you need is 1 though, and I think Secret Circle might be that good.

Secret Circle was outrun early in the Oak Tree race. He was still fairly close to the lead through fractions of :21+ and :44+. When he stretches out, he almost assuredly will be on the lead. That's not to say he doesn't have any talent.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Secret Circle was outrun early in the Oak Tree race. He was still fairly close to the lead through fractions of :21+ and :44+. When he stretches out, he almost assuredly will be on the lead. That's not to say he doesn't have any talent.

Outrun early? Sure I guess thats 1 way to put it, even though I doubt many horses can outrun this horse at all. I thought he rated very well. Maybe Im wrong. Of course stretching out he will be on the lead, and a lot of these types dont move forward. We will have to wait and find out.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Outrun early? Sure I guess thats 1 way to put it, even though I doubt many horses can outrun this horse at all. I thought he rated very well. Maybe Im wrong. Of course stretching out he will be on the lead, and a lot of these types dont move forward. We will have to wait and find out.

Watch the first quarter mile as the colt breaks on top, Bejarano is all over him to keep him up between horses, then Trevor calls out, "those three going out like quarter horses". The Sidney's Candy brother cleared him and Bejarano found himself in the garden spot chasing the pace, not rating.

Anyways, your talking in circles now. All I said was that the colt needs some work if he's going to stay a route of ground, as a frontrunning style isn't the ideal type for the Classics. You argue with that, yet admit that he'll likely be on the lead when he stretches out. You say he can rate kindly, and yet no horse apparently can outrun him early.

We get it. You like him. A lot of people do. But take the blinkers off. He's far from perfect.